Tilt $163, Basic Turn Decision w/ Trips (Chewy and I disagree)

[Ship Ship McGipp]

lol chewy is a nit

[mikeJ]

Ok, a few points.

Noah: "Obv if he has total air calling's better too."

Chewy: "I also think you aren't giving him enough combos of air in which case raising the turn is certainly not good"

You cannot say this, unless you say that you're counting on him bluffing river sometimes w/ the air part of his range. I'm guessing you guys figure that is implicit, but I'm just making it clear we're on the same page here. Also, I don't believe his river bluffing freq will be that high.

This is true if/only if we will be receiving enough action from the air part of his range on river enough to compensate for what we lose when he completes his draw.

And chewy, I think that hoping a whiffed draw that pairs up will pay me off on river is wishful thinking unless it's Ax diamonds that catches an ace, which may/may not pay off.

[luckychewy]

u have the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and i think he's got air a lot more than it seems like you think he does. i don't know what else to say...i just think the reasons to call out weigh the reasons to raise.

[Mr.Poker]

Why has no-one said min-raise?

[Ship Ship McGipp]

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lol chewy is a nit

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[jlocdog]

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I like a call here too. A raise gets played with only by a K or hand you have destroyed. He may elect to bluff-shove the river if it misses draws.

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You might need to rewrite this or rethink it altogether my man...

[NoahSD]

When your line is raise pre/check back flop/call turn on a draw-heavy board unknowns bluff the river a good amount.

[DDBeast]

I, dare I say, push. He's betting the pot, which is also a huge portion of his stack. He's not folding. I don't think he plays a draw like this, but even if he does he's probably still calling. I think this is a lone king very often. He's willing to get it in, don't dissappoint him.

[nath]

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I, dare I say, push. He's betting the pot, which is also a huge portion of his stack. He's not folding. I don't think he plays a draw like this, but even if he does he's probably still calling. I think this is a lone king very often. He's willing to get it in, don't dissappoint him.

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I was wondering what took someone so long to point this out

[luckychewy]

i dunno, i think you guys are wrong here. people are really bad, some of them just bet the pot because they want to bet and just don't know what else to do. i honestly feel like a lot of donks think like this, "a minbet is too small and all in is too much, oh cool i'll choose this option in the middle, pot seems good."