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#11
11-26-2007, 01:02 PM
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Re: 400 NL - LITTLE HELP HERE?
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I don't like it. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] 
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#12
11-26-2007, 02:16 PM
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Re: 400 NL - LITTLE HELP HERE?
i agree - it's hard to imagine anyone calling with a worst hand than AK here.
Though of course, it could beat a really poorly played set of Jacks. but not betting the turn on that board is well, bad, and with 13/10/2 stats, all indicaitons are that he would. What range do we put villian on here?
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#13
11-26-2007, 04:49 PM
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Re: 400 NL - LITTLE HELP HERE?
I think its standard tbh.
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#14
11-26-2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: 400 NL - LITTLE HELP HERE?
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I think its standard tbh. [/ QUOTE ] Why?
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#15
11-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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Re: 400 NL - LITTLE HELP HERE?
I can't think of any hands you're getting value from with a shove here, so the only reasons to shove are A - to move him off a better hand which I don't think you're attempting, or B - to look like a bluff which gets him to call with QQ, which he prob won't.
The best options to me are A) value betting to get value from TT/QQ which would prob check behind on riv , or B) check calling to induce a bluff, or lose the least to better hand.
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#16
11-26-2007, 05:07 PM
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Re: 400 NL - LITTLE HELP HERE?
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[ QUOTE ] I think its standard tbh. [/ QUOTE ] Why? [/ QUOTE ] because he doesn't have a better hand hardly ever and c/c sucks (and I don't really fold TPTK in 3bet pots very often and this isn't one of the few times that I'd want to).
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#18
11-26-2007, 05:20 PM
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Re: 400 NL - LITTLE HELP HERE?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think its standard tbh. [/ QUOTE ] Why? [/ QUOTE ] because he doesn't have a better hand hardly ever and c/c sucks (and I don't really fold TPTK in 3bet pots very often and this isn't one of the few times that I'd want to). [/ QUOTE ] Doesn't this create a reverse negative freeroll situation though? We don't have a hand strong enough to get called by a hand that would check behind, and all the hands we're losing to will bet big or shove anyway. Are you just trying to head off a bluff from villain (or induce a hero call) with your own bluff? That seems really marginal to me. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] You can just say "meta-game" and I'll leave you alone. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#19
11-26-2007, 05:23 PM
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Re: 400 NL - LITTLE HELP HERE?
As long as you bluff here a portion of the time (which I assume your laggy ass does) then this is fine. He might convince himself to make a hero call with AJ/QQ.
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#20
11-26-2007, 05:26 PM
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Re: 400 NL - LITTLE HELP HERE?
I think he an make some hero calls here given that eazy's range is pretty much AK or air in this spot with the turn check. I wouldn't really be surprised to get looked up by worse 1 pair hands at all. Also, I'm not too eager to check here and go to showdown or c/f as that line seems weak given my 3bet, cbet, shutdown line and I would like to be able to get value when I have a big hand the next time.
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