3-bet deep OOP.

Woolygimp · #1 10-04-2007, 02:49 AM

CO thinks he's good, tries to pull advanced bluffs into multiple people and just ends up spewing chips. We have a lot of history, and he's capable of playing back at me with air. He's a winning player, but his most glaring leak is that he wants to outplay everyone such as raising a flush card with complete air into a bet and 6 callers.

We are $2000 deep in a 5/5 NL game.
I'm in the BB with AKo.
Several limpers to CO who makes it $35.
I make it $135.
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Flop is J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

I lead for $200. He calls.

Turn is a 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

I check, he bets $300, and I fold.

Obviously I c/r him AI here on the turn with JJ but what do you do here with TT? QQ? KK? AA?

I was thinking about this hand, and his turn bet is either always AA or air. He uses pot control with KK or worse, especially after putting me on a large hand 3-betting OOP. I really don't see how to play KK here, when all we really beat is a bluff which I think this is fairly often. The only thing that leads me to believe he may have a real hand is his PF raise into several people.

It's a [censored] spot that I don't know how to avoid. There's an argument to flat AKo preflop OOP, but what about KK? QQ?

Obviously in this situation, AKo beats the same range as KK, although it's not enough to profitably call. He never bets this turn with QQ.

Woolygimp · #2 10-04-2007, 04:34 AM

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ArturiusX · #3 10-04-2007, 05:01 AM

Are you asking how to avoid overpairs with AK? What are you supposed to do? Sometimes you run into them, c/f, next hand.

Woolygimp · #4 10-04-2007, 05:02 AM

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Are you asking how to avoid overpairs with AK? What are you supposed to do? Sometimes you run into them, c/f, next hand.

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Obviously I c/r him AI here on the turn with JJ but what do you do here with TT? QQ? KK? AA?

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He had 95o this particular hand, but there's nothing I can do. What I am worried about here though is that he would've bluffed me off of QQ, and I'm asking how to avoid this.

Trivial · #5 10-04-2007, 05:13 AM

c/r to 900 on turn if his range is that polarized. if he can bluff shove over that he deserves the pot.

ArturiusX · #6 10-04-2007, 05:17 AM

Don't fold an overpair?

Sleek · #7 10-04-2007, 06:37 AM

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c/r to 900 on turn if his range is that polarized. if he can bluff shove over that he deserves the pot.

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If his range is polarized to the point that he's either got AA or a bluff, then you definitely don't want to check-raise with KK or QQ on the turn. He'll just fold his bluffs and shove AA.

JFsports · #8 10-04-2007, 06:57 AM

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I was thinking about this hand, and his turn bet is either always AA or air.

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If this is true, which I very much doubt, and given your description of player, you should c/r here

Trivial · #9 10-04-2007, 07:06 AM

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c/r to 900 on turn if his range is that polarized. if he can bluff shove over that he deserves the pot.

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If his range is polarized to the point that he's either got AA or a bluff, then you definitely don't want to check-raise with KK or QQ on the turn. He'll just fold his bluffs and shove AA.

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nm didnt read the full post, was evaluating the hand with AK

Unknown Soldier · #10 10-04-2007, 08:29 AM

c/c down w/ overpairs given villain.