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Old 11-15-2007, 06:52 AM
nextgenneo nextgenneo is offline
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Default Rejecting the free card and shoving the combo draw on the turn instead

Vil in this hand plays 21/12. His fold BB to steal is 72% which is low, and his raise c-bet is 14% which is relatively high.


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BB: $579.05
Hero (UTG): $398.37
BTN: $398
SB: $453

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $12, BB folds

Flop: ($32) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $24</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $56</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $162</font>, SB calls $106

Turn: ($356) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $222.37 and is All-In</font>

<font color="blue">At this point its less likely he has 77 and most people would just shove it in with a set w/ the action and flushing board. The guy raises enough to easily c/r a jack which I think there is a good chance he'd fold. Looking at it now would be nice with a little bit more money but is it really that bad w/ stack sizes the size they are?</font>
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:54 AM
luckybacon luckybacon is offline
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Default Re: Rejecting the free card and shoving the combo draw on the turn ins

I can see why you look it at has a good shove b/c 77 is more unlikely. But thats just going to give him more reason to call with a jack.
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: Rejecting the free card and shoving the combo draw on the turn ins

If u think u have any f/e here, then u should shove.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: Rejecting the free card and shoving the combo draw on the turn ins

not deep enough on turn and he'll call with a J most likely and sometimes with a better fd.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: Rejecting the free card and shoving the combo draw on the turn ins

I think you would have more FE if the pot wasn't so big.
I'm not so sure about the 3 bet on flop either since you're in position.
I think he calls you down pretty light given pot size but if he isn't full you still have odds.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: Rejecting the free card and shoving the combo draw on the turn ins

shove flop
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: Rejecting the free card and shoving the combo draw on the turn ins

no way you raised 46s utg [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:29 AM
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Default Re: Rejecting the free card and shoving the combo draw on the turn ins

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no way you raised 46s utg [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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4 handed so UTG = CO
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:38 AM
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Default Re: Rejecting the free card and shoving the combo draw on the turn ins

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no way you raised 46s utg [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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4 handed so UTG = CO

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haha my bad, didn't notice it was 4 handed
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:41 AM
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Default Re: Rejecting the free card and shoving the combo draw on the turn ins

as for the hand, i don't think he's folding, i take the free card and hit the 5d river
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