2 interesting $400 PLO8 hands

[SapphireMoon]

Sorry can't avoid mentioning pre-flop selection.
Interesting predicaments.

Hand 1: Shouldn't have been in the pot period much less call a re-raise but what's done is done. But since you're in. I like the pot bet on flop but MP2 another limper / caller of massive preflop raise is the aggressor here. 78 unlikely for the made st8 (not totally out as he made an isolation play to move Button out) but I suspect that MP2 might have AQKJ for a massive re-draw or Ax10 10. You left out what the Button did. Two opponents or one. Eh, either way I would fold.

Hand 2: Love the pockets.
I would have re-raised on flop - don't get greedy isolate UTG - or maybe take it down now. You have nut flush draw and decent low cards. At this point there are no st8 draws. What a sweet flop for your hand. The all-in and re-raises are often A2-ers (maybe a set but silly re-raises with lows and flush draws possibilities). So PUSH PUSH PUSH.

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[Mendacious]

A little more thought on hand 2>

I think you have to assume that UTG has a high hand that will beat you unless you hit your flush AND I would suspect that your low-- if it comes probably is not good-- and even if it is good against UTG, it might not come. I think you have to treat this hand almost as you would a high only hand, and I think UTG has practically priced you out of the hand.

Certainly forgivable if you call, but I think fold is probably more correct.

[davebreal]

good discussion so far

as far as hand 2 goes, nobody has mentioned that UTG could very easily have AA2x or AA4x, another hand that I'm a dog to.

[SapphireMoon]

Hmmm... good point, about being priced out given that flop bet was just cold called instead of being re-raised.

Preflop raiser did pot bet flop - Some people bet their A2 draws too heavily though. As you and Dave mentioned -- probably AA2x. In this hand I'm not really worried about UTG's pot bet per se. This is why I advocate raising this flop such that BB is priced out to ensure iffy backup low cards odds increase.


So, in retrospect, given the way it was bet a fold is probably best but if a re-raise was made by Hero a call is justified.

I suspect that the BB is the one with pocket Kings for trips as he did a check raise all -in.