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Old 11-26-2007, 02:38 AM
AceofSpades AceofSpades is offline
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Default Hero doesn\'t go to war. KT vs donk bet

Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 1,200/2,400 Blinds, 300 Ante, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

UTG+1: 67,717
MP1: 54,090
Hero (MP2): 57,522
CO: 23,889
BTN: 33,809
SB: 217,049
BB: 115,534
UTG: 24,140

Pre-Flop: (6,000) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP2)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to 7,200</font>, 3 folds, BB calls 4,800

Flop: (18,000) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets 4,800</font>, Hero folds

Results: 18,000 Pot
BB mucked and WON 18,000 (+10,500 NET)

feels weak...I go to war here sometimes, but lately have been trying to stop spewing chips...good/bad?
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:45 AM
omg im l337 omg im l337 is offline
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Default Re: Hero doesn\'t go to war. KT vs donk bet

I would wait for a better spot. No need to get crazy.
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Old 11-26-2007, 02:53 AM
StepBangin StepBangin is offline
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Default Re: Hero doesn\'t go to war. KT vs donk bet

I dont mind a fold here.

Plan ahead to the river, I like thinking about all scenarios before acting.

My thought process would be.

What if I raise the flop and he calls and I wiff the turn and he bets?
What if I raise the flop and he calls and I wiff the turn and he checks?
What if I raise the flop and he calls and I wiff the turn and he check/raises?

What if I raise the flop and he calls and I hit the K on the turn and he bets?
What if I raise the flop and he calls and I hit the T on the turn and he bets?
What if I raise the flop and he calls and I hit the K on the turn and he checks?

And so on and so on... I think with this hand you will find yourself in a tough decision in many turn/river scenarios if you hit a pair, making the flop fold good.
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: Hero doesn\'t go to war. KT vs donk bet

Pot is 18,000. BB bets ~1/4th.
Some players do it on a steal, some with J7, some with 55. Readless, i'm having tough time deciding when to go to war too. But a fold is not bad.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:10 AM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: Hero doesn\'t go to war. KT vs donk bet

If you are going to raise this pre (which is marginal - KT is a hand I'd rather have suited / I'd rather have connectors from MP2), then please raise to ~5500.

Flop is standard, you are either going to bluff raise or fold depending on your opponent's tendencies. If you are going to bluff raise, PSB is best. Really just depends on a lot of factors. This could very well be J10, JQ, JK, even JA / set or a mid pair trying to win the pot. Rarely is it air, he's leading to protect something, especially considering where your raise is coming from. With that, probably a fold, unless you have a good read that player is tight and trying to avoid showdown.

Barry
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Old 11-26-2007, 03:26 PM
JoeyJoJo Shabadu JoeyJoJo Shabadu is offline
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Default Re: Hero doesn\'t go to war. KT vs donk bet

what posseses you to wanna go to war with this hand? King high isn't a calling hand. Why is this one any different?
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