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Old 11-26-2007, 12:16 AM
jlocdog jlocdog is offline
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Default Which street is bad? All of it? None of it? Damn you good...?

2/4 NL on FTP (6 handed)

BB: $584
SB (me): $712

Read on BB is that he seems fairly competent. A bit loose/aggro PF but not overly fishy. Havn't seen him make any glaring mistakes postflop. I am playing a bit snug but not overly tight. Not opening from BTN/CO as much as normal but still getting my fair share of raises in.

Please critique every part of this hand (well the two streets that were played). I think stacks make this spot a bit funky but maybe I'm just high....

Folded around to me in the SB and I make it $14 with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. BB raises to $54. I call.

($108) Flop comes J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].

I check. BB bets $80. I raise to $300. BB shoves for $450. I call $150.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Which street is bad? All of it? None of it? Damn you good...?

Fold pre flop.

He probably did a stack-a-donk on you with QQ-AA?
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: Which street is bad? All of it? None of it? Damn you good...?

Not sure how he does a stack-a-donk if I c/r him and we get it all in on one street. You sure you know what that term means in regards to the line it represents?

And don't be so quick to judgment that I lost....geez. But thank for your input on folding PF (seriously).
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: Which street is bad? All of it? None of it? Damn you good...?

Preflop doesn't necessarily narrow his range down to QQ-AA...he's somewhat splashy preflop, and folded around to you two in the blinds, he could think your raise is a steal and could 3-bet with many hands

Sadly, I do think you're beat by his flop play..But i think you have the odds to call his 150 extra. There's a chance he shows down KJ, or Axs flush draw.

Just so i could know, could you PM me the results?
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: Which street is bad? All of it? None of it? Damn you good...?

I don't understand why u don't just CRAI? i mean...do u ever CR to 300 and fold for 150 more? I mean...I think he knows that too.

but, I think I like a call on the flop and then play poker on the turn.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: Which street is bad? All of it? None of it? Damn you good...?

i donk the flop, w/stack sizes induces a lot more and get it in against a better range than flop c/r imo
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:02 AM
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if he calls i check most turns
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default Re: Which street is bad? All of it? None of it? Damn you good...?

fold to raise pre, call flop bet.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:11 AM
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Not sure how he does a stack-a-donk if I c/r him and we get it all in on one street. You sure you know what that term means in regards to the line it represents?

And don't be so quick to judgment that I lost....geez. But thank for your input on folding PF (seriously).

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Looks like i misinterpreted the meaning of that saying then. I just dislike losing 150bb's with AJ in a 3 bet pot.

It looks like your behind from his all in because he knows he has no fold equity.

I would also prefer to lead this flop as you have a better chance to induce a bluff raise. Once you check raise him it sort of turns your hand into a bluff because he has to fold any hands he could have bluffed with but continues with his overpairs/set and big draws.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:12 AM
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Default Re: Which street is bad? All of it? None of it? Damn you good...?

fine, calling can sometimes be better. just shove though
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