25 NL.......bet and reraise in front of me with TPTK

[greatscout]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

had not been at this table long although MP3 had been pretty active.

MP1 ($25.25)
MP2 ($42.35)
MP3 ($24.10)
CO ($15.85)
Button ($25.20)
Hero ($30.60)
BB ($5)
UTG ($26)
UTG+1 ($16.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.35.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.40, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($2.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $1.5</font>, Hero ?....

I know I should have lead out here with tptk right? Since I didn't now what? I have a bet and a raise to deal with? Sometimes I just hate myself.....

[checkmate36]

Im folding preflop. From the SB I don't think this would be a big mistake.

[Roger Mainfield]

I would probably fold preflop, and I would definatly fold on the flop. The problem is that you are out of position, so it will be very difficult to win money here when you have the best hand. And if the opponents are even half-way decent every time a lot of money goes in the middle you will have the worst of it. Reverse-implied odds.

[oakrdrzfan]

I usually don't play AQ, AJ or AT OOP to a raise and cold caller unless they are both idiots. As played, I would fold the flop. If I did call pf and hit the TPTK, i would lead out on the flop.

[roll]

Fold preflop. ATo is junk unless you're in LP or completing the SB.

I'd lead this flop and fold to future action unimproved. As played fold to the flop raise.

I fold because:

1. Even if you call you won't know where you're at in the hand and
2. you'll only be more lost on the turn when a non A or T comes.
3. Raising here is spew.

Bet/folding the flop makes it simple and easy to play. Folding preflop makes it even easier.

[roll]

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I usually don't play AQ, AJ or AT OOP to a raise and cold caller unless they are both idiots.


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Folding AQ here would suck. I'd raise or call depending on the weather. Whats the rainge of a 25max min raiser and caller here? Surely AQ is profitable for 1.6 bb.

[AFCBeer]

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Bet/folding the flop makes it simple and easy to play. Folding preflop makes it even easier.

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I do see 2 problems with leading this flop though. If our bet looks "weak" the PFR could raise you out with pratically ATC. Thats certainly a move I make quite a bit and I'm pretty tight.

Secondly making a "strong" bet will build a big pot OOP with what is still a pretty weak hand. If we get called, and I think that is quite likely, whats our plan for the turn.

Since no play is ideal on the flop I agree this HAS to be a fold preflop

[subzero]

This is usually a fold preflop for me. But if I had a read that MP1 and/or MP3 was fishy, I might be interested.

[mce86]

Call and reevaluate on the turn.

[roll]

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Secondly making a "strong" bet will build a big pot OOP with what is still a pretty weak hand. If we get called, and I think that is quite likely, whats our plan for the turn.

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check/fold UI, you're behind too often and when you're ahead (i.e. when villain floats with AK or something) he will often check down.