November 14th: House Judiciary Committee Hearing Thread

[whangarei]

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I have the luxury to follow my passions and determination of my responsibilities to "service" and giving back to society as I feel fit to do.

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Give me a break.

[DeadMoneyDad]

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I have the luxury to follow my passions and determination of my responsibilities to "service" and giving back to society as I feel fit to do.

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Give me a break.

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Why should you get one? If this thread has show anything no one gets a break!

So as others have said get over it or STFU!



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[TheEngineer]

Everyone,

I appears the FoF Wikipedia entry has been updated to include their position on gaming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focus_o...and_activities

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Focus on the Family also supports prohibition of all gambling in America. This position has created some controversy within the Christian community, as gambling is not prohibited in the Bible[5]. This schism is evidenced by the fact that many churches hold gambling contests, especially bingo, to raise funds. Focus’ insistence on this position, as a result, has been interpreted as “extra-Biblical doctrine” that was created by some within the Christian Right who are personally opposed to gambling. At the November 14, 2007 House Judiciary Committee hearing entitled “Hearing on Establishing Consistent Enforcement Policies in the Context of Online Wagers”[6], Family Research Council Vice President Tom McClusky testified that his organization favored banning Internet poker in the United States. When questioned further by Rep. Steven Cohen [D-TN] on how much gambling FRC advocated banning, McClusky testified that FRC wished to ban all gambling in America, including even poker[7]. Upon hearing this, Rep. Cohen incredulously asked "is there any fun you are for?", leading many in the blogosphere to nickname FoF “Foes of Fun”[8].

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[Uglyowl]

LOL... I have watched sections of that video and haven't seen it.. at what time does the exchange take place? I love the foes of fun saying!

[TheEngineer]

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LOL... I have watched sections of that video and haven't seen it.. at what time does the exchange take place? I love the foes of fun saying!

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[following McClusky's advocacy of a total gaming prohibition in the U.S.]
Rep. Steven Cohen: Is there any fun that you’re for? [laughter in background]
Tom McClusky: Any what?
Rep. Steven Cohen: Fun.
Tom McClusky: Umm...well, we’re for this, and this seems like a lot of fun.
Rep. Steven Cohen: Hearings?
Tom McClusky: [no response...laughter in background]
Rep. Steven Cohen: Good, good.

[TheEngineer]

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LOL... I have watched sections of that video and haven't seen it.. at what time does the exchange take place? I love the foes of fun saying!

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3:33:45 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[following McClusky's advocacy of a total gaming prohibition in the U.S.]
Rep. Steven Cohen: Is there any fun that you’re for? [laughter in background]
Tom McClusky: Any what?
Rep. Steven Cohen: Fun.
Tom McClusky: Umm...well, we’re for this, and this seems like a lot of fun.
Rep. Steven Cohen: Hearings?
Tom McClusky: [no response...laughter in background]
Rep. Steven Cohen: Good, good.

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I posted an article to Daily Kos on this, at http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/18/203357/80

[Uglyowl]

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LOL... I have watched sections of that video and haven't seen it.. at what time does the exchange take place? I love the foes of fun saying!

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3:33:45 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[following McClusky's advocacy of a total gaming prohibition in the U.S.]
Rep. Steven Cohen: Is there any fun that you’re for? [laughter in background]
Tom McClusky: Any what?
Rep. Steven Cohen: Fun.
Tom McClusky: Umm...well, we’re for this, and this seems like a lot of fun.
Rep. Steven Cohen: Hearings?
Tom McClusky: [no response...laughter in background]
Rep. Steven Cohen: Good, good.

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I posted an article to Daily Kos on this, at http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/18/203357/80

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This was much better seeing the video than the already funny transcript.

[oldbookguy]

TE, nice, I do not do WIKI, but you may want to work in the following from BibleStudy.org

The last recorded case in Scripture is on Acts 1:24-26, when the apostles asked God' decision of a choice between two men to replace Judas, through the casting of lots.

"And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all [men], shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. " (Acts 1:24-26)

WHAT IS CASTING LOTS:
http://www.biblestudy.org/question/castlots.html

The conclusion from BS, It is quite OK to flip a coin or some similar method, like a draw, to determine a winner , or the like, with the understanding that the outcome is left to chance and nothing else.

However, this all said, if you search gambling, it is condemed by this same bible study course.

Ah, me oh my.

obg

[DeadMoneyDad]

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TE, nice, I do not do WIKI, but you may want to work in the following from BibleStudy.org

The last recorded case in Scripture is on Acts 1:24-26, when the apostles asked God' decision of a choice between two men to replace Judas, through the casting of lots.

"And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all [men], shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. " (Acts 1:24-26)

WHAT IS CASTING LOTS:
http://www.biblestudy.org/question/castlots.html

The conclusion from BS, It is quite OK to flip a coin or some similar method, like a draw, to determine a winner , or the like, with the understanding that the outcome is left to chance and nothing else.

However, this all said, if you search gambling, it is condemed by this same bible study course.

Ah, me oh my.

obg

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obg,

SWEET!

I knew from the years of traning from the Jesuits that this "bible say gambling is evil" was pure crap, as you can often find "justification in most religous docs for most anything you choose. Thanks, I had not done the work to did any specific quotes from the Bible up in counter-point.

Well done,


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[PPABryan]

Good Article by the associated press late yesterday, running in todays newspapers.

Link to article on Chicago Tribune site

Bryan Spadaro
Membership Relations, Manager
Poker Players Alliance