Just Got Patrik Antonius Answer To The Question I Asked Kenny Tran

[HobbyHorse]

Why get worked up about PA's answer? Perhaps it would be best to look at it like a blessing in disguise...Since, according to PA, the online players are not the top players in the world, then the live players are going to be that much more willing to play with you and give you action when you do decide to play live...

[Mr_Moore]

I think that many of these post are irrelevant and coming from people that do not qualifie to give their opinion.
If anything it would be interesting to find out the opinion of the high stakes online players the exist at 2+2.
Their comments would be interestin.

[wilneedheart]

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Question: Regarding the very big, live game, full table NLH games, how many players who are, or were, considered mainly internet players, would be among the top twenty best players, playing that game?


His answer was zero.

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Most replies in this thread are just pathetic hating, envious rationalizations(excuses/denial).

IMO what KT and PA are saying -whether intentionally or not- is that if the top 8 online players were at a table playing this game then they would be falling over themselves to get the last seat.

[wilneedheart]

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Question: Regarding the very big, live game, full table NLH games, how many players who are, or were, considered mainly internet players, would be among the top twenty best players, playing that game?

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I don't like the way this question is phrased. You are basically asking if any of the regular winners in the live game are mainly internet players.

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lmao!! No he is not. "would" and "are" have two distinct meanings. You have misunderstood because you haven't read the question properly. He is asking if any internet players were to play that game would they be in the top twenty.

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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I think that many of these post are irrelevant and coming from people that do not qualifie to give their opinion.


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welcome to NVG

[CASINOCASINO]

The question was asked in a matter where the answer was irrelavant.

[CASINOCASINO]

Also I am pretty sure PA had no idea what David Sklansky asked him.
Did you guys read the question?

[w_alloy]

This thread is hilarious. I'm not near as qualified to answer as a lot of the players in this thread, but I have at least put in around 40 hours in the bellagio 25/50 game, which afaik was the highest NL game running in vegas at the time so I assume some of the best live players were in it.

It was hilariously soft. I would put the skill level of the average live pro I played against at 25/50 well below the average 5/10 online grinder. I wished the stars 5/10 game played like the bellagio 25/50 that I played in.

Maybe once you get to the top top live tier, there is a big skill jump, or maybe I just played it for a really soft week... but I doubt it. The fact is, the best players play online cause you can win more money at it. Even if I had a higher expectation per hand in that 25/50 game than playing 5/10, the fact that I get 30 hands an hour at live 25/50 and 600 hands per hour at 5/10 means that my winrate would have to be FOUR TIME AS HIGH at 25/50 then at online 5/10 for me to have a higher hourly there. Given how rarely high stakes pure NL games run that are easy to get into, it makes perfect sense that the best players in the world play primarily online.

And lol @ all the people who think that 6 max NL specialists couldn't adjust well to the extra 3 players. It really is a trivial matter. And with some practice, live reads are way less important than a lot of people believe imo. As long as the online player is smart and able to control their body, a few reverse tells should nearly make up for whatever they lose in that department.

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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This thread is hilarious. I'm not near as qualified to answer as a lot of the players in this thread, but I have at least put in around 40 hours in the bellagio 25/50 game, which afaik was the highest NL game running in vegas at the time so I assume some of the best live players were in it.

It was hilariously soft. I would put the skill level of the average live pro I played against at 25/50 well below the average 5/10 online grinder. I wished the stars 5/10 game played like the bellagio 25/50 that I played in.

Maybe once you get to the top top live tier, there is a big skill jump, or maybe I just played it for a really soft week... but I doubt it. The fact is, the best players play online cause you can win more money at it. Even if I had a higher expectation per hand in that 25/50 game than playing 5/10, the fact that I get 30 hands an hour at live 25/50 and 600 hands per hour at 5/10 means that my winrate would have to be FOUR TIME AS HIGH at 25/50 then at online 5/10 for me to have a higher hourly there. Given how rarely high stakes pure NL games run that are easy to get into, it makes perfect sense that the best players in the world play primarily online.

And lol @ all the people who think that 6 max NL specialists couldn't adjust well to the extra 3 players. It really is a trivial matter. And with some practice, live reads are way less important than a lot of people believe imo. As long as the online player is smart and able to control their body, a few reverse tells should nearly make up for whatever they lose in that department.

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QFT

/thread. mods can lock now

[Mr Sarcastic]

Do you mean the last 2 seats ?