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Old 11-05-2007, 02:49 PM
slsmagicc slsmagicc is offline
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yes typo i put an extra 0 on the 45 and 55 even still AP challenge would hve had a compined total of 700,000, cause each player reresents 1,000 in cash.


Side note. I find it funny that many peeps feel the need to make a nasty responce to a siple typo. It just shows how sad you are.

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Nasty responses ARE necesary because you are stating that Absolute is scamming people are they are not. Go back to math class!
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:31 PM
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let me be clear and simple for the mathematically challenged:

9,753 players

some players would have rebought, many would have not rebought at all, and so on (including addons).

let's assume that your figures were right. Thus, 9,000 people would have paid an extra 50c, making an extra 50c per player.

thus, 9,000 players * $0.50 = $4,500



as far as i can see, the $700k figure is just made out of thin air, and has no relevance to this situation.

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the top 5 player whent on to play in the 1000 ap challange, where there was around 700 players. With 4500 to 5500 taken in the first tourney and figuaring the same fro the other 700 players = 1000 each player = 700,000
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:34 PM
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thinking its $1,000 to buy into this event; but no, it was the total prize pool and included about 700 players from simular events.

DON'T PLAY AT ABSOLUTE POKER!!!

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I kept in your caps. That was good. But if the total prize pool was $1,000 and there were 700 players then total buyin value is approx. $1.50
So you won 53 + 1.50 for $54.50. Assuming the prize pool was $4,500 in the freeroll rebuy and first would get say 20% you should have won $900. These numbers will allow you to do proper research. You should have won $900 not %54.50. I have a feeling the rebuys were $.05 or .10 and not $.50 or a $1.00 and hence the $54.50 return.

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Thank you for a real reply. but no the rebuys where 0.50 and 1.00 dubble rebuy the add on I cant rember.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:36 PM
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the top 5 player whent on to play in the 1000 ap challange, where there was around 700 players. With 4500 to 5500 taken in the first tourney and figuaring the same fro the other 700 players = 1000 each player = 700,000

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the "1000 ap challenge" did not have a buyin of $1,000.

it had total prizes of $1k.

please stop posting wrong and stupid things.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:38 PM
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First: All of their freerolls are usually maxed out at 5000 players. If you played one with that many entrants (Doubt it), then

Second: Typically there are between 70 -90 rebuys, and 20- 30 add-ons. Occasionally more, but rarely.

Third: Prize pools typically run between 120 and 200 bucks.

Fourth: You earned what you deserved. Weekly 1000 is for top 5 entrants from each freeroll that week...no rebuys or add ons there.



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There were 9753 players.

All that I stated is true.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:42 PM
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the top 5 player whent on to play in the 1000 ap challange, where there was around 700 players. With 4500 to 5500 taken in the first tourney and figuaring the same fro the other 700 players = 1000 each player = 700,000

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the "1000 ap challenge" did not have a buyin of $1,000.

it had total prizes of $1k.

please stop posting wrong and stupid things.

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Please read the post.
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Old 11-05-2007, 09:44 PM
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the top 5 player whent on to play in the 1000 ap challange, where there was around 700 players. With 4500 to 5500 taken in the first tourney and figuaring the same fro the other 700 players = 1000 each player = 700,000

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the "1000 ap challenge" did not have a buyin of $1,000.

it had total prizes of $1k.

please stop posting wrong and stupid things.

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I'm assuming he means that AP got $1,000 in extra money from each event that the 700 people qualified through. Of course, 5 came from his event, so it would only take 140 events like that. Plus of course we're missing a ton of other information.

OP, no one has any idea if you have a legitimate point or not, as you have completely fouled up all the numbers here. What was actually paid out in cash in the event you played in? You mentioned a $53 first prize and 64 paid spots, but I don't think you ever said how much the total prize pool was. Also, do you have an actual number of people who rebought, or were those numbers just your assumptions?
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:03 PM
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the top 5 player whent on to play in the 1000 ap challange, where there was around 700 players. With 4500 to 5500 taken in the first tourney and figuaring the same fro the other 700 players = 1000 each player = 700,000

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the "1000 ap challenge" did not have a buyin of $1,000.

it had total prizes of $1k.

please stop posting wrong and stupid things.

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I'm assuming he means that AP got $1,000 in extra money from each event that the 700 people qualified through. Of course, 5 came from his event, so it would only take 140 events like that. Plus of course we're missing a ton of other information.

OP, no one has any idea if you have a legitimate point or not, as you have completely fouled up all the numbers here. What was actually paid out in cash in the event you played in? You mentioned a $53 first prize and 64 paid spots, but I don't think you ever said how much the total prize pool was. Also, do you have an actual number of people who rebought, or were those numbers just your assumptions?

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Let me start over, I played in a free role on AP. There was 9,753 players, this event was not capped at 5,000. I don't know why I have looked since and have not found one with more than 5,000, but thats how many players there where. rebuys = 0.50 dubble rebuys = 1.00 add ons I forget but they where 0.50 or 1.00.

there where about ( about) 7,000 rebuys and about 2,000 add ons, so this = $4,500 to $5,500 in the prize pool. They paied 64 spots and 1st place was $53.00 + they gave the top 5 players a seat to the "AP challenge", so I though, ok this must be where all the money goes; thinking its $1,000 to buy into this event; but no, it was the total prize pool and included about 700 players from simular events.

This means AP took in about $700,000 ( everyone askes where does 700,000 come from), answer is if my free role took in 4,500 to 5,500 and gave 5 seats to the AP challenge then thats about 1,000 a player, 5000 divided by 5 players to move up to AP challenge. There where about 700 players from other free roles and the like in the AP challenge, so 700 x 1000 = 700,000 That was why I said I thought (wrongly) it was a 1,000 buy in event.
Anyway top prize for the AP chalenge was 250. I say it has to be a scam because where does the money go.
Allso to answer you Q about the rebuys and add ons they post this on the lobby as the tourney is in progress and yes 7,000 and 2,000 where the round numbers for them.
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:20 PM
Bobo Fett Bobo Fett is offline
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OK, your numbers are making a little more sense now. I still see two things that are missing, though.

How much was the prize pool for the original tourney? This could dramatically affect your calculation.

Also, the $700,000 figure assumes that every player got into the AP Challenge the same way...is that the case?
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Old 11-05-2007, 11:55 PM
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Tournament name, date, time, and tournament number, please.
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