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Old 11-21-2007, 08:00 PM
xwowsersx xwowsersx is offline
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Default Shut down ....?

Villain is 18/16 over 50 hands. His 3-bet range seems narrowish. Whats my line on this flop?

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (MP): $201.75
CO: $241
BTN: $84.30
SB: $246.25
BB: $200
UTG: $223.60

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $26</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $18

Flop: ($55) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $32</font> ... Hero ...?
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:01 PM
Ranma4703 Ranma4703 is offline
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Default Re: Shut down ....?

Does he double barrel? AK has 10 outs against you, and everything else is killing you. Fold.
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:01 PM
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I'd fold preflop.
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Old 11-21-2007, 08:12 PM
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I'd fold preflop.

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Old 11-21-2007, 10:47 PM
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I'd fold preflop.

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Not sure I agree with the folding preflop. Being deeper would help for calling, but firstly - even though is 3bet range might be narrow, he could be doing this with AK type hands and, secondly, we both have full stacks so theres room to fish for a set - I have no reason to believe he's the type of player who can get away from a big overpair. At the same time, I could see reason to fold preflop, but its not a for sure.
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Old 11-21-2007, 11:21 PM
Ranma4703 Ranma4703 is offline
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I'd fold preflop.

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Not sure I agree with the folding preflop. Being deeper would help for calling, but firstly - even though is 3bet range might be narrow, he could be doing this with AK type hands and, secondly, we both have full stacks so theres room to fish for a set - I have no reason to believe he's the type of player who can get away from a big overpair. At the same time, I could see reason to fold preflop, but its not a for sure.

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AK being in his range hurts us, because on the flop he either has an overpair and is crushing us, or has AK and still has ~24% equity, and we aren't going to stack the AK when a 9 hits unless an A or a K hits, and we really aren't getting that great odds to set hunt. Basically, AK in his range makes it so 1/2 the time when a 9 hits without a A or K, we aren't stacking him, and 1/2 the time when no A, K, or 9 hits we are WA/WB and have no idea where we stand in the hand, and are just completely [censored]. Mash the fold butan.
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