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Old 11-15-2007, 07:31 PM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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I am shocked this is the front story on SI.com
Edit: Also ESPN hired Mark Faindru-Wada earlier this week. ZOMG CONSPIRACY THEORY
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:32 PM
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When is the NCAA going to come under fire for pathetic testing in football?
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:34 PM
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FWIW the charges are not all predicated on Bond's denying the use of steroids.

Count 1 (steroids and testosterone prior to 2001 season) and Count 3 (growth hormone and testosterone prior to 2002 seaosn) deal with denial of knowing getting/discussing illegal PEDS with Anderson.

However:

Count 2 (perjury) deals with Bonds' denial he was ever injected with anything by Anderson or Anderson's associates.

Count 4 (perjury) deals with when he was given the cream by Anderson, which Bonds insisted was prior to 2003 season.

Count 5 (obstruction of justice via perjury is predicated on proof of any of the first 4 counts of perjury to a federal grand jury)

Thus he could be convicted of Counts 2, 2 and 5 without it being proven he knowingly took steroids.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:34 PM
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odds of a trial?
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:36 PM
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Lester Munson just said odds of a trial were very high
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:36 PM
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i feel like today should be a national holiday. Followed with a 2nd holiday when he goes to jail for the max 30 yrs imo
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:37 PM
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I would say about 80% --

No cameras in federal courtrooms so we will likely see lots of talking heads outside a government building in San Francisco for the next year.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:39 PM
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Whoever questioned Bonds in the grand jury did a terrible job of pinning him down and getting him to directly answer the questions put to him, which is very important in later proving perjury. His answers wander all over the place, and include a bunch of "not that I recalls".

I'm not saying the prosecution can't win, but from a purely legal standpoint the case looks rather flimsy, which presumably explains why it wasn't brought for many years.
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:39 PM
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And Vick should be sentenced to death, amirite?
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Old 11-15-2007, 07:40 PM
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obv
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