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Old 08-03-2007, 02:23 AM
yekwol yekwol is offline
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Default Do you gamble here?

I read the sticky and tried the converter linked but it appears not to work for Full Tilt.

Bubble time, I've been fairly active. Villain has been one of the more active players at the table as well but hadn't been out of line. He had shoved on my button raises from his BB a couple of times. He also doubled me up when he shoved AK vs my 99 pf.

FullTiltPoker Game #3138159165: $14,000 Guarantee (23437748), Table 67 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:43:57 ET - 2007/08/03
Seat 1: Holly2005 (9,485)
Seat 2: Chip Stevens (12,901)
Seat 3: Hero(16,750)
Seat 4: jaymoney101 (18,095)
Seat 5: Gerblazzel (27,057)
Seat 6: petroglyph (11,355)
Holly2005 antes 125
Chip Stevens antes 125
Hero antes 125
jaymoney101 antes 125
Gerblazzel antes 125
petroglyph antes 125
Holly2005 posts the small blind of 500
Chip Stevens posts the big blind of 1,000
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Jc Qc]
hero has 15 seconds left to act
Hero raises to 2,300
jaymoney101 folds
Gerblazzel calls 2,300
petroglyph folds
Holly2005 folds
Chip Stevens folds
*** FLOP *** [2h Ac Tc]
Hero checks
Gerblazzel bets 24,632, and is all in
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:41 AM
Clover78 Clover78 is offline
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

I am very new to poker so give this response the appropriate weight but I will give this a shot. (and probably get shot down by future posters)

It looks like you are been offered just under 1.5 to 1 to call and could expect to have 12 outs (9 clubs, 3 Kings) and possibly up to 18 outs if this is a mid pair bluff although it looks to me like a scared weak ace happy to take the already sizable pot. If you cancel out the times he has a set with the times its a complete bluff/mid pair I think you are getting the rights odds to call so it depends on whether you are playing for ITM or playing to win.

The fact that he has been active leans me in favor of calling.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

Why are you checking that flop?? Bet about 2/3-3/4 pot on the flop and call a push.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: Do you gamble here?

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Why are you checking that flop?? Bet about 2/3-3/4 pot on the flop and call a push.

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def do not check this flop.
hell, i would prefer you make his move and just open shove rather than check it and give him the chance to take it away.

-eroc
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:37 AM
yekwol yekwol is offline
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I lead this flop 98% of the time but the players at this table seemed to be making a lot of small post flop bets so I was planning to shove over top of another probe bet and got hit with his push instead. I thought with that line I may be able to fold out a weak ace but if I bet and shoved if raised the ace would be committed to calling me.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:44 AM
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I lead this flop 98% of the time but the players at this table seemed to be making a lot of small post flop bets so I was planning to shove over top of another probe bet and got hit with his push instead. I thought with that line I may be able to fold out a weak ace but if I bet and shoved if raised the ace would be committed to calling me.

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Well you said in your description that villain hadn't been getting out of line so I doubt he's in there w/ a weak ace you can move him off. If he got an ace, it's probably a decent one and he's calling your flop c/r. Also by checking you're giving him the oppertunity to make this play. If he check behind that's not great either because if you miss what are you planning on doing on the turn? Lead? what do you do if he calls and you miss on the river as well. just bet the flop, the pot is big enough in relation to your stack to take down right away.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:22 AM
Doylestown Doylestown is offline
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Definitely lead this flop to show that you're committed. This might be one of those rare occasions when that stupid BET POT button could be used.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:28 AM
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you should be happily putting your chips in the middle here every time.
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:44 AM
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Not leading is terrible. I bet enough so that it looks like I have a made hand I'm trying to protect. I'm hoping to get raised (or make my hand on the turn is he calls!). If he just calls and we brick on the turn, we have a decision to make.

As played, I'm pretty sure you have to call.
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Old 08-03-2007, 09:55 AM
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looks like you have 12 outs,45%.gamble.
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