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Old 10-02-2007, 11:55 AM
Misfire Misfire is offline
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Default Re: A few questions for abolitionists

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The Founding Fathers never envisioned the land to be owned completely by private individuals, but to be the territory of the USA.

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Wrong. Please reread the Declaration of Independence and try again.

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The DoI was a fine propaganda tool to rally support against English tyranny. In the end, it replaced this tyranny with a tyranny imposed by the wealthy elite of the United States. If you want to start using the DoI as your basis, then you'll have a tough time explaining how slavery continued to exist in America, even by those who fervently supported the DoI. In no way shape of form was the DoI, the Constitution, or the FF's vision to have a territory where individual property owners owned their land outright. In fact, the wealthy elite land owners who comprised the FFs would much prefer a system with control of much more than their own individual plots of land through laws and regulation imposed by a government made up of men like themselves. There was a lot of noble words being said at the time, but when it comes to property and true ownership, the govt, not the individual, was the final say, from the very beginning. Hence, who was the real owner? Try to tell the State of Virginia in 1780 that you'll no longer be paying taxes because your own plot of land has seceded from the state, and you will not permit outside roads or militia forces to trespass your land. You will quickly be removed from your plot of land.

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Wow, you totally missed what I was disagreeing with.
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