1/2, AK deep vs 75/18

PartysOver · #1 09-26-2007, 11:02 AM

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $259.05
BB: $208.00
UTG: $502.35
MP: $263.00
Hero (CO): $541.20
BTN: $197.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $2.00, MP folds, Hero raises to $8.00, 3 folds, UTG calls $6.00

Flop: ($19) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG bets $8.00, Hero raises to $22.00, UTG raises to $36.00, Hero folds?

villain is 75/18/4.5 but has been extremely passive towards me, i dont think we've seen a showdown yet... it's like he's been avoiding me b/c of stacks. HOWEVER, the very last hand he played back at me for the first time hard. he c/minr turn and made a psb on river at which point i folded.

PartysOver · #2 09-26-2007, 11:05 AM

Hand i witnessed a little later

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $206.00
BB: $532.35
UTG: $263.00
Hero (MP): $511.20
CO: $197.00
BTN: $258.05

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG raises to $8.00, 4 folds, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, UTG bets $12.00, BB raises to $24.00, UTG calls $12.00

Turn: ($65) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $22.00, UTG calls $22.00

River: ($109) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $138.00, UTG calls $138.00

Pot Size: $385.00 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Fours) and WON (+$190.00)
BB had 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Fours) and LOST (-$192.00)

does this change things?

cjp010 · #3 09-26-2007, 11:23 AM

Dramatically :P However, whos to say when he had that A he didnt hit w/e [censored] kicker he had anyways. You did the right thing to wait for a stronger hand, TPTK is great.. in limit holdem.

Gonso · #4 09-26-2007, 11:36 AM

Against a guy that LAG, with TPTK and position, it would be hard to let go there. CHeck-call for some semblance of pot control?

If this had occured after seeing the second hand, I'm going with the TPTK, no sense in pot control... I think you even have to value bet TPTK on the river if nothing really scary comes.

PartysOver · #5 09-26-2007, 11:41 AM

ha maybe i shouldnt have posted the second hand

gonso-
i can't check call in postion?

POW9199 · #6 09-26-2007, 12:37 PM

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Against a guy that LAG, with TPTK and position, it would be hard to let go there. CHeck-call for some semblance of pot control?

If this had occured after seeing the second hand, I'm going with the TPTK, no sense in pot control... I think you even have to value bet TPTK on the river if nothing really scary comes.

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But he plays the two hands very differently. He would probably call a flop shove in hand 2, but he flat calls w his weak TP. In the hand vs your AK, he plays back on the flop. I would fold AK, and most likely on flop.

holland3r · #7 09-26-2007, 12:44 PM

I give this guy no credit -- call his reraise and call down the rest of the hand. Bet if checked to, shove over a smallish river bet, etc.