Sunday Million: Flopped bottom set into 3 spades

IceCremMnstr · #1 10-22-2007, 08:38 AM

Not a lot of information about the villan here. I have only been at the table for a few orbits.

Besides the preflop action what do you think? When he reraises the flop I'm thinking either over pair, top pair or something like aj, jk or even ak aq, etc, with one spade or one spade plus a pair.

either way how do you play this?

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Poker Stars, $200 + $15 NL Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
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MP2: 11,900
CO: 9,500
BTN: 20,025
SB: 11,050
BB: 7,250
UTG: 8,175
Hero (UTG+1): 12,150
MP1: 7,850

Pre-Flop: (300) 3 3 dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG raises to 600, Hero calls 600, 7 folds

Flop: (1,500) J 3 4 (2 Players)
UTG bets 800, Hero raises to 2,200, UTG raises to 7,575 and is All-In, Hero...

Confused1 · #2 10-22-2007, 08:54 AM

In the Sunday Million, this definitely a call.

ASPoker8 · #3 10-22-2007, 08:57 AM

whats the question?

call obviously

registrar · #4 10-22-2007, 08:59 AM

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wherever, this shallow, this is definitely a call.

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Hattifnatt · #5 10-22-2007, 10:18 AM

snap call, I fold preflop though.

gobboboy · #6 10-22-2007, 10:21 AM

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snap call, I fold preflop though.

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IceCremMnstr · #7 10-22-2007, 10:32 AM

do you always fold small PPs in this spot preflop? if so what is your normal range (ex. folding 22-66? or something like that?)
I dont mind calling 3bbs early on ina n effort to get this type of flop.

thoughts?

Hattifnatt · #8 10-22-2007, 10:38 AM

calling this preflop without a very specific read on the opponent and the table is quite a leak, if you dont see this you have to look over your game.

putting in 8% of the effective stack for pure set value vs an UTG raiser with whole table left to act are left to act is bad.

SamN · #9 10-22-2007, 10:42 AM

You simply cannot call here pre-flop with 6 people left to act...

Rocco · #10 10-22-2007, 10:50 AM

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do you always fold small PPs in this spot preflop? if so what is your normal range (ex. folding 22-66? or something like that?)
I dont mind calling 3bbs early on ina n effort to get this type of flop.

thoughts?

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Good thing this was brought up. I'm certain it's a very common leak of many players. A big chunk of those players don't even know about the leak. I've come halfway in dealing with this problem, I know I suffer from it but in the heat of action, I still make the calls hoping to flop a set. The same goes for suited connectors... First, note that UTG only has 8K behind, so you have worse implied odds. Second, I don't know how many times I've made the call cause it's "just 5% of my stack", only to see someone make a raise behind. Do this a couple of times, and you'll be into push-or-fold-mode pretty soon...