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Old 11-27-2007, 07:32 PM
sfetaz sfetaz is offline
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Default AA late, paired board and opponent is betting

Both opponents are between 30 and 40 VP$P, less than 10% PFR and TAF under 2

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls $0.10 (All-In), UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (15.60 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: (17.60 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.60 BB
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: AA late, paired board and opponent is betting

There basically has to be a 5% chance that he has KK or AA here to call on the river.

I'd probably find a fold on the turn after MP1 donks it.
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: AA late, paired board and opponent is betting

As above, I would fold the turn. The all-in BB could easily be ahead anyway, and after MP1 donks I can't imagine what you could beat.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: AA late, paired board and opponent is betting

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Both opponents are between 30 and 40 VP$P, less than 10% PFR and TAF under 2

Full Tilt 0.50/1 Hold'em (7 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls $0.10 (All-In), UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (15.60 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players, 1 all-in)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: (17.60 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.60 BB

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i'd just call down and play the next hand in the absence of an actual read.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:22 AM
TimovieMan TimovieMan is offline
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Default Re: AA late, paired board and opponent is betting

Don't see anything wrong with this hand, especially given the absence of real reads.
Both villains appear to be sLAGs, so they're not really doing much out of the ordinary here.
Call down as played, make notes on BB and MP1.
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Old 11-28-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: AA late, paired board and opponent is betting

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As above, I would fold the turn. The all-in BB could easily be ahead anyway, and after MP1 donks I can't imagine what you could beat.

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Players low on chips often make desperate moves with the last their last chips so him shoving them in doesn't necessarily mean anything more than a FD, Jx or pocket pair - it's often a Qx too.

I don't mind the call-down from the turn in a pot this big. Thin at best though.
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Old 11-28-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: AA late, paired board and opponent is betting

This is a large pot by the time the Q hits the turn. However, MP1 has done nothing but call until he donks the turn. With passive players they only do this with a queen. Even though I know this I still call down because 15BB is enough for me hope the other player is getting out of line.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: AA late, paired board and opponent is betting

you should include that BB is short stacked in your intro ...

i would imagine an aggressive opponent would be raising the flop with top pair a large % of the time (and BB is easily stacking off) ... i think this is a pretty standard call down (I can't see raising the turn, nor folding)
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:41 PM
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Default Re: AA late, paired board and opponent is betting

Pot's pretty big, call and hope for the best.
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:42 PM
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Default Re: AA late, paired board and opponent is betting

This looks fine to me. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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