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Old 08-13-2006, 04:04 PM
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Default 11r: AA Standard?

PartyPoker $11 Regular Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t5120)
UTG+1 (t1600)
MP1 (t2208)
MP2 (t1345)
CO (t1860)
Button (t2206)
Hero (t2285)
BB (t3376)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t250</font>, BB calls t150

Flop: (t500) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t300</font>, BB calls t300

Turn: (t1100) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets t666</font>, <font color="gray">Hero folds</font>
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: 11r: AA Standard?

You have to keep calling.....77-QQ thinks he has you beat.

Folding here can't be good.

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Old 08-13-2006, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: 11r: AA Standard?

I am not afraid of going broke in this spot because you get paid off by tons of pocket pairs.
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: 11r: AA Standard?

In this situation with A-A, I ALWAYS, check this flop.

If he puts in a bet, I raise. It looks much more convincing that you are holding a King than it would if you just continuation bet the flop.

If he plays back after that, I muck.

If I'm your opponent, I'll often call a continuation bet on a flop like that even if I missed, to set up a check-bet on the turn. If I see a check-raise, I usually run.
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: 11r: AA Standard?

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In this situation with A-A, I ALWAYS, check this flop.

If he puts in a bet, I raise. It looks much more convincing that you are holding a King.

If he plays back after that, I muck.

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Wait....you're trying to get non-K hands to fold vs. you on the flop here? You do realize they have like 2 outs against you, right?

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Old 08-13-2006, 04:26 PM
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In this situation with A-A, I ALWAYS, check this flop.

If he puts in a bet, I raise. It looks much more convincing that you are holding a King.

If he plays back after that, I muck.

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Wait....you're trying to get non-K hands to fold vs. you on the flop here? You do realize they have like 2 outs against you, right?

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Yugoslav

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If I'm his opp.. A continuation bet here wouldn't scare away my QQ-88, and I'm almost certiantly putting a big bet in on the turn if it's checked to me.

If my opp checks that flop after raising preflop, my ears perk up.. If he re-raises me after I put in a bet with my QQ-88, I give him credit for the king everytime.


These are $5-$20 SNGs where you see alot of the check-raise with big hands on the flop.
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: 11r: AA Standard?

sekrah,

Yeah I'm talking specifically about representing a K by making a check/raise.

I don't mind c/c the flop turn and river here, btw b/c like most pps seem to want to play that way.

Also, a c-bet won't scare away 88-QQ, are you crazy? It will sometimes I suppose but it's more likely they raise and fold to an allin or call and tank on a blank turn card.

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Old 08-13-2006, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: 11r: AA Standard?

[ QUOTE ]
In this situation with A-A, I ALWAYS, check this flop.

If he puts in a bet, I raise. It looks much more convincing that you are holding a King than it would if you just continuation bet the flop.

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Why would you want to represent a King here? So better hands call and worse hands fold.
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Old 08-13-2006, 04:46 PM
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Default Re: 11r: AA Standard?

[ QUOTE ]
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In this situation with A-A, I ALWAYS, check this flop.

If he puts in a bet, I raise. It looks much more convincing that you are holding a King than it would if you just continuation bet the flop.

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Why would you want to represent a King here? So better hands call and worse hands fold.

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I already tried asking this question...

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Old 08-13-2006, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: 11r: AA Standard?

If you've been betting all flops where you were the PF raiser, and now you check a KKx rainbow board, I think it lets the villian know, "hey, I'm repping the K by NOT betting it, 'cause I've CB'ed every other flop...". OTOH, if you've been playing more straight-forward and not bet every flop, I'd be more apt to bet here, especially if you've been shown to bet your hands and check when you whiff.
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