Top 2 no good?

[88jayhawks]

Sorry, no hand converter.

i just got moved tables, so no reads on anyone.

I'm worried about the action behind me after he leads that flop.


Full Tilt Poker Game #3035721087: $3,000 Guarantee (22633532), Table 3 - 50/100 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 15:54:28 ET - 2007/07/23
Seat 1: azilee 39 (4,249)
Seat 2: DAGACE (8,760)
Seat 3: Robbie30 (5,070)
Seat 4: Bring Da Ruckus (910)
Seat 5: bruceson1 (2,450)
Seat 6: bfelds (9,127)
Seat 7: torvik5 (6,060)
Seat 8: Wired_Nutz (3,060)
Seat 9: jim_ap (606)
jim_ap posts the small blind of 50
azilee 39 posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bfelds [Qc Kh]
DAGACE calls 100
Robbie30 calls 100
Bring Da Ruckus folds
bruceson1 folds
bfelds calls 100
torvik5 folds
Wired_Nutz folds
jim_ap calls 50
azilee 39 checks
*** FLOP *** [Ks 3h Qh]
jim_ap checks
azilee 39 checks
DAGACE checks
Robbie30 bets 100
bfelds raises to 400
jim_ap folds
azilee 39 folds
DAGACE calls 400
Robbie30 calls 300
*** TURN *** [Ks 3h Qh] [Js]
DAGACE bets 850
Robbie30 raises to 4,250
bfelds has 15 seconds left to act
bfelds: wow
DAGACE: kj??
bfelds folds
DAGACE folds
Uncalled bet of 3,400 returned to Robbie30
Robbie30 mucks
Robbie30 wins the pot (3,400)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,400 | Rake 0
Board: [Ks 3h Qh Js]
Seat 1: azilee 39 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: DAGACE folded on the Turn
Seat 3: Robbie30 collected (3,400), mucked
Seat 4: Bring Da Ruckus didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: bruceson1 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: bfelds folded on the Turn
Seat 7: torvik5 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Wired_Nutz (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: jim_ap (small blind) folded on the Flop

[BarryLyndon]

Your raise is no good. In fact, it's ass. You need to be raising a lot more, try like 800 or something. Your raise is just...bad.

As far as the turn is concerned, flip a [censored] coin - it's either KJ or he made a straight. I guess considering that QJ may play the hand this way (though I doubt it), you could factor that in a little and the coin becomes heavier toward one direction and call, but man, does this suck.

Barry

[88jayhawks]

does my play suck or does the spot suck...or both?

[Ryanb9]

oh come on now, its not that bad. and why dont you try telling him WHY the small raise is not good so he can actually learn something

[BarryLyndon]

OK, Ryan, I'm sorry - his raise is bad because it's a multiway pot on a draw heavy board and raising so small (300 more into a 500 or 600 pot?) invites one if not two passive callers and makes your decision on the turn miserably because no you are questioning whether he has KJ or a straight. You want to raise bigger and hope to get it heads up; also, if he's doing this with KJ or something bad, you are going to get more $$ in on later streets.

Barry

[illini43]

A case can be made for raising this preflop to punish limpers.

Raising the flop to 600 is a better play for the reasons listed in the post above.

With all the action, it's hard to tell what kind of hand might be making this move. I think I call because this looks like a low buy-in tournament and lots of worse two pair combos have hit, but I can also see this being a gutshot like AT or T9 that hit. Someone could have been slowplaying a set...bleh, I probably push it in as well (i.e. push over to try and isolate the original raiser instead of calling - thus giving him better odds to stay in the pot).