2+2ers hitting up a play money site?

[PokerParadimeMc]

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The real fish in that hand is clearly Sonia. I actually emailed the site owner and conversed a bit about this, but Sonia does not appear to play good poker to me, but yet the stats they compile on her have her destroying the games. I can't really justify that in my mind when I see the way she plays.

-DeathDonkey

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Hi DeathDonkey, Sonia varies her play significantly depending on her opponents. Some strange plays may seem otherwise if you had seen their stats, however for obvious reasons they have to remain confidential.

We are in the process of adding Monies won from or lost to Sonia in your stats so you can see just how fishy she is!

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this is hilarious. someone created a site where pbob runs hot and crushes all.

but wtf, how come theres no virtual victor?

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There is a virtual PokerBob because someone has signed up to the site with that username; there is no virtual Victor as no-one has registered with that name.

Marc

[inferno]

does sonia know your cards?

[Spy Dog]

I call BS on Sonia.

I had a hand where she openraised from the SB, then I 3-bet and she folded preflop. WTF?? Maybe she read my 3-bet as super-super strong. No. I don't think so. I had 3-bet T7o in the same situation a few hands earlier and showed it down.

[DeathDonkey]

Hi Marc,

I hope you saw my comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. I conversed a bit with the other Mark by email and he explained exactly what you just stated to me. I was more commenting on the fact that IF Sonia is crushing the games then us humans have been making a lot of strategic mistakes against players such as the typical opponents at your tables. That scares me a bit because we (2+2ers who study and think about the game) take certain things for granted that Sonia will either prove wrong or we will all continue to disagree with her about. I hope you could see why this would be unsettling to some of us, a shift of thought has to occur given the potential evidence Sonia can bring to the table about her correct play.

All, at first I was a bit freaked out by the site too, and a friend even told me "do you think they are just modeling your play to make a bot that will crush the online games" but what it comes down to for me is they certainly don't need to go to all the trouble of creating a site like this if that was the sneaky secret goal. I mean they could just hire the best players out there to come and give them strategy advice in private. The fact that they are open and honest about what the site is and isn't is pretty reassuring. I for one think these days limit hold'em strategy discussion often is boring or we repeat the same things we've asked and discussed many times before, but playing with my virtual player and seeing his stats and results and what he concludes about my play from small samples of hands is giving me a new perspective on potential leaks in my game, ways opponents perceive us in a small sample of hands, and then there is Sonia's play itself, which might lead to a lot of things we thought were correct plays being shown to be suboptimal.

-DeathDonkey

[PokerBob]

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this is hilarious. someone created a site where pbob runs hot and crushes all.


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i just saw that. I have $37k and the next guy has $2500. this clearly cannot be real, as no site would ever let me win.

[mtgordon]

So Sonia 3bets pf w/K9o then caps the flop w/gutshot + 2 overs? Something seems fishy.

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PokerYoda [ Ts Js ]
<rick_rolled> calls [$1]
<phaethon> raises [$2]
<BaronKedal> folds
Sonia raises [$3]
PokerYoda folds
<MrRedpoint> calls [$2]
<rick_rolled> calls [$2]
<phaethon> raises [$2]
Sonia calls [$1]
<MrRedpoint> calls [$1]
<rick_rolled> calls [$1]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 6s, 5d ]
<MrRedpoint> checks
<rick_rolled> checks
<phaethon> bets [$1]
Sonia calls [$1]
<MrRedpoint> calls [$1]
<rick_rolled> raises [$2]
<phaethon> raises [$2]
Sonia raises [$3]
<MrRedpoint> folds
<rick_rolled> calls [$2]
<phaethon> calls [$1]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5h ]
<rick_rolled> bets [$2]
<phaethon> calls [$2]
Sonia calls [$2]
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
<rick_rolled> bets [$2]
<phaethon> calls [$2]
Sonia raises [$4]
<rick_rolled> raises [$4]
<phaethon> calls [$4]
Sonia raises [$4]
<rick_rolled> calls [$2]
<phaethon> calls [$2]
Sonia shows [ Kc, 9h ] A Nine High Straight
<rick_rolled> shows [ 7c, 9s ] A Nine High Straight
<phaethon> doesn't show [ Qd, Qc ] Two Pair, Queens and Fives
Sonia wins $29.75 from the main pot with A Nine High Straight
<rick_rolled> wins $29.75 from the main pot with A Nine High Straight