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Kiss her ass to try to get it tomorrow... 5 25.00%
Scream, yell and cuss until she repairs my computer first... 0 0%
Mention how I saw EM2s video on cardrunners so that makes me special... 5 25.00%
Go Mike Tyson and threaten eating her kids/family... 5 25.00%
BASTARD!!! 5 25.00%
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Old 11-19-2007, 02:22 PM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

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i fold coz we can't setmine and i'm not thrilled about playing it for pair value

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also, these aren't our only two options/reasons for calling vs a light three bettor.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

More detailed info about the hand:
About everyone around the table is average TAGs except one fishy type who sits to villains left. The TAGs have seemed to steal normaly often. I've seen him played 100 hands, and he have 3betted 3 times totally (not only against me) those hands. I've played pretty straight forward 18/15, but maybe a bit lesser weak than the average. I have made 2-3 3bets earlier this session. I've not become caught bluffing or playing "spewy" earlier this hand.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

Continued from the poll over:
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

Please remember that he doesn't exactly have to stack off with AA even if the stacks are 200bb. And you will stack off when you have a set and he has, too. While this is very rare, it has a huge impact on ev.

And I do agree that for making plays 87s is a better hand.
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:24 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

Would you all call preflop to raise his cbet with a SC rather than a small pp?
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Old 11-21-2007, 03:30 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

If you pair with a SC and he has smth like AA or TP then you have more outs, with 66 you have 2 outs.
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Old 11-21-2007, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

The alternatives in the poll pretty much suck. The correct % in both questions is definately 0-33%.

I wouldn't call preflop unless we're 150bb deep, and even that might not be enough depending on villain. I'd guess 150ish is ok though, 120bb is not.
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:04 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

Nick Royale: Which hands would you call with?
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:09 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

In that poll I play TT+. Generally calling QQ-TT and re-raising with AA/KK, but mixing in calling with AA/KK.
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:11 AM
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Default Re: NL100: Setmining against a TAG who 3bets my preflopraise

Ok. Would you call with other hands than in the poll?
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