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View Poll Results: How helpful are the book study groups.
1, not at all helpful 2 11.11%
2 2 11.11%
3 3 16.67%
4 0 0%
5 1 5.56%
6 1 5.56%
7 1 5.56%
8 5 27.78%
9 2 11.11%
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 play-along vs a reg

PUSH IT ALL IN PREFLOP, POT ODDS YO
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Old 07-13-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 play-along vs a reg

-call pf is std...... you got position and your hand sucks in a reraised pot and yadada
-i'd bet/call the flop b/c no one c/r a strong hand on this board


What I don't understand why everyone is saying check or bet/call the turn... it would take a huge bluff to c/r something other than a 9... not to mention if the villain chose to bluff he'd prob do it with a hand that had decent equity against us. So bet/call seems out.

I hate the check on the turn because you are missing value on draws. If you assuming he isn't c/r bluffing on the turn (seems pretty safe to me) then it seems you are missing out on a lot of value against a large portion of his range.

Also if you are so scared of the 9... betting out here and getting raised costs the same as calling the river, so why not value the drawing portion of the villains range?
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:36 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 play-along vs a reg

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Check, you're not getting 3 streets vs QQ.

If he bets the river I mostly call bc I am a station. Also I want to know what he has.

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I think most ppl who check the flop with QQ aren't gonna let go of it, esp with 50bb stacks
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 play-along vs a reg

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Check, you're not getting 3 streets vs QQ.

If he bets the river I mostly call bc I am a station. Also I want to know what he has.

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I think most ppl who check the flop with QQ aren't gonna let go of it, esp with 50bb stacks

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Oh yes, I didn't notice stacks. Yeah bet away.
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:37 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 play-along vs a reg

bet turn, fold to a raise, if called c/f river
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 play-along vs a reg

PF: Pretty standard call, IMO.

Flop: Bet/call seems awfully standard here. I'm more than happy to get it in, in this spot.

Turn: When I'm running good, I just keep blasting away here, and don't ever fold. I see people call down with AT and crap all the time, or show up with a weird bluff.

Checking and planning on picking off most river bets looks fine too.

EDIT: heh, somehow I kinda skipped over reads. Flop play still holds, but I'm a lot more likely to check vs a decent reg. On the river, you can fold on a blank sometimes.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:30 AM
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raise bet bet bet betb be bb et bebe betb etbeb etb eatgh etb rteb et go allin hu tp good hand cant beat that

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Old 07-13-2007, 05:36 AM
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-call pf is std...... you got position and your hand sucks in a reraised pot and yadada
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What about against a SB who is raising you 3 out of 4 times in your blind battles? Wouldn't this hand warrant a raise? and this guys is 27/23, he's obviously raising lite. I think i'd be happy to 3-bet this pf.

As played, bet flop, check turn, call most rivers... you did your job in keeping the pot reasonable by checking the turn, allowing you to call river bets. If he has trip 9s, so be it.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:41 AM
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Flop: Bet/call seems awfully standard here. I'm more than happy to get it in, in this spot.



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How deep are we? I mean if we are 100bbs deep, and its a non 3-bet(pf) pot, you are happy stacking w/ kings (jack kicker?)
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:55 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 play-along vs a reg

pf call; rather rep a worse hand by calling than rep a good hand by raising when if he calls i could be on planet reverse implied.

flop bet obv bet. fold to check raise.

turn check, you dont want to risk being semi bluffed off the best hand. if your betting for value, there isnt a great deal that's calling you. better to induce a bluff from him on river or if he checks river, he may think you made a standard stab on the flop, and so are now bluffing river and youll get called by hands you wouldnt of on turn.

river call if he bets for reason above, if checked to value bet for reason above.
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