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Old 05-06-2007, 08:39 PM
Inso0 Inso0 is offline
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It's been discovered that the universe is constantly expanding, which strongly supports the big bang theory. There's no such evidence for god.

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There are very few self-respecting scientists who still believe in the Big Bang.

There are also 11 instances in the bible where God is said to have "stretched" out the heavens. Some claim it to be a coincidence, but in my opinion that is a pretty significant statement. When I think of something being "stretched" I certainly get a visual sense of expansion.


The big question for your big bang theory would simply be: What the hell exploded?

The problem is, if you answer that question, you open yourself up to SO many new questions that all lead back to a creator of some kind.

Then you have the law of angular momentum which would have applied to that mythical spinning ball containing all the matter in the universe. Sadly for Big Bangers, that law is broken all over the place. Hell, even several of our neighboring planets aren't obeying that law. Entire galaxies are spinning backwards!


The Big Bang Theory is dead as an explanation for universal genesis.

You can find a VERY extensive article debunking the Big Bang theory here.
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:39 PM
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Whose version of creation would you teach? And where would you teach it? Science? Literature? Religion?
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:49 PM
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Whose version of creation would you teach? And where would you teach it? Science? Literature? Religion?

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I'll be honest. I don't want creationism taught in public schools.

I repeat: I am not in favor of teaching creationism in public schools.

I would leave creationism to the private schools to teach. I just want all the lies out of the public, TAX supported text books.

If people want to teach the religion of Evolution, let them open their own schools. It has no place in our public schools.

I can open up just about any public science text book and find no less than a dozen outright lies that pertain to the theory of evolution. But those lies are being used to teach our children this theory that we all came from rocks that were rained on for a few billion years.

I have no problem with people beliving in evolution. I just don't think they should be able to indoctrinate it into our public school kids by means of lies and half-truths. I think you'll find that once you take all the lies out of the text books, there isn't anything left to teach Cosmic/Stellar/Checmical/Planetary/Organic/Macro Evolution with.

All that will be left is Micro Evolution, which is perfectly acceptable and entirely true!
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:51 PM
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^ this guy is just leveling.
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:01 PM
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It's a government subsidized religion. Admit it and move on.

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No, It's a falsifiable theory.

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Which is being taught as fact in public schools.

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No public school is teaching ID as fact.
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:03 PM
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It's a government subsidized religion. Admit it and move on.

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No, It's a falsifiable theory.

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Which is being taught as fact in public schools.

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No public school is teaching ID as fact.

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This was referring to the Theory of Evolution, not ID.

There's no way in hell the public schools would get away with teaching ID in any capacity. The ACLU would have protesters on their doorstep within the hour and half a dozen lawsuits threatened shortly thereafter.
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:12 PM
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Ins0 - You're good. Religious debate much?
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:20 PM
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The information you seek can be found in any public library or by using any decent search engine. You can easily access the information (3-5 minutes), if you really want to learn the facts. I don't know if it will matter, you seem to have your mind made-up.
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:32 PM
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Inso, obviously you have rehearsed rhetoric in response to all of this discussion - asking what exploded in the big bang and saying watermelons are blue before the skin is pierced (i still dont fully understand the relevance of that to your argument but moving on...)

in trying to assess where youre coming from, do you believe in the existence of dinosaurs and where do they fit in w/ your view of creation/evolution?
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:33 PM
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This was referring to the Theory of Evolution, not ID.

There's no way in hell the public schools would get away with teaching ID in any capacity. The ACLU would have protesters on their doorstep within the hour and half a dozen lawsuits threatened shortly thereafter.

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My mistake.

And as for your comments earlier in the thread about evolution being the explanation of the origin of life being taught in public schools as fact, I didn't really experience that. The general scientific ideas of evolution were taught, but I don't recall reading a text that authoritatively stated that evolution is single-handedly responsible for the origin of life.

Furthermore, concepts of ID and creationism were taught in my schools, and rightfully so in my opinion. There are a significant number of physicists and astronomers who believe in design principles for the universe.
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