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Old 10-27-2007, 08:15 AM
gobboboy gobboboy is offline
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Default Re: Do I folda set 360bbs in Niagara 10k

I really don't think this is much tougher than a pokerstove calculation.

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476,784 games 0.126 secs 3,784,000 games/sec

Board: Jh 9c 8h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.443% 56.80% 00.64% 270837 3042.00 { JJ, 99-88, QTs, J9s-J8s, Th9h, 98s }
Hand 1: 09.964% 09.33% 00.64% 44463 3042.00 { KK+ }
Hand 2: 32.593% 31.96% 00.64% 152358 3042.00 { 88 }

Maybe he could have A9hh or Q9hh or 97hh too, but those hands don't affect the equity too much.

Outside of two pair, there's really no hand where you have him crushed at all. If I were in rhynie's spot I'd be folding kings and everything below kings.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: Do I folda set 360bbs in Niagara 10k

This is pretty close IMO. Because I don't really think you are looking at a flush draw with AhQh KhQh, maybe Th9h or AhTh, I think it is either J9 or 98 for two pair, or a higher set or a made straight. You have to think that Rhynie is getting his money in with at least a flush and straight draw combination and better than a 50-50 at this stage of the tournament.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:50 AM
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Default Re: Do I folda set 360bbs in Niagara 10k

rhynie owns a casino...
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Do I folda set 360bbs in Niagara 10k

I would push. You are not really that deep in a reraised pot. If you are up against a big pair and a straight, you have outs. There is a pretty good chance you are up against a combo draw or two pair.
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: Do I folda set 360bbs in Niagara 10k

Like you said, even if you're crushed by rhynie, chances are you crush the other guy that has you covered and you can pick up the side pot. And you have a set!
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:11 AM
Todd Terry Todd Terry is offline
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Default Re: Do I folda set 360bbs in Niagara 10k

I agree with Gobbo's Stove chart. (I ran it adding in QTo as well, and your equity actually went up slightly, which is a bit strange but makes sense if you think about it long enough). While I have no real insight into the mind of a player who would bet 3x pot into that board with an overpair, I think even BB might consider folding an overpair after getting a call and raise from his 10K bet, so I'm not sure you can count on him coming along for the ride. Which leads to the conclusion that it's a fold?
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: Do I folda set 360bbs in Niagara 10k

wtf? just spike quads... how hard is that?
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Old 10-27-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Do I folda set 360bbs in Niagara 10k

I'd give him JT and probably 9T too. Either way I can't imagine folding.
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:18 AM
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Default Re: Do I folda set 360bbs in Niagara 10k

Why the hell would he put in 10k on that flop with JT with a guy to act behind him? Makes no sense.
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: Do I folda set 360bbs in Niagara 10k

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Got me chuckling.
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