50nl - AA villian shoves river - Page 3

Nemesis69 · #21 10-15-2007, 07:29 AM

If I was hero I'd fold. The only thing we were beating was air. Whyzze is getting really fond with bluffing imo [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Nick Royale · #22 10-15-2007, 07:35 AM

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I agree.. I'd call with AA there.. what are you representing, some random 5 or TT/JJ that went for a stack-a-donk and whiffed?

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I think all the villain's me, I'm not hero etc. got you confused.

prodonkey · #23 10-15-2007, 07:44 AM

No, not really.. I know what is going on.

rjacobs003 · #24 10-15-2007, 07:46 AM

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lol. Lemme try again. I assumed that's why OP checked the turn so as played, is a river check/call not better. Otherwise why check the turn here?

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You're basically saying that because we make a bad turn play we should follow up with a retarded river line just to make the line congruent.

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No....As a matter of fact I was just asking why a bet/call is better than a check/call in this situation assuming we've gone with a turn check. Don't mind it being called retarded if you must but appreciate some constructive input please.

corsakh · #25 10-15-2007, 07:47 AM

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What do you think of the turn? More importantly, do you call the river?

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The most important part of this hand is betting the turn and it's not close.

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Absolutely no need to.

Nick Royale · #26 10-15-2007, 07:47 AM

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No, not really.. I know what is going on.

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He checked behind the turn, he didn't go for a stack-a-donk.

ama0330 · #27 10-15-2007, 07:48 AM

We're too deep to call this. I would call if it was a little more shallow.

Nick Royale · #28 10-15-2007, 07:56 AM

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lol. Lemme try again. I assumed that's why OP checked the turn so as played, is a river check/call not better. Otherwise why check the turn here?

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You're basically saying that because we make a bad turn play we should follow up with a retarded river line just to make the line congruent.

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No....As a matter of fact I was just asking why a bet/call is better than a check/call in this situation assuming we've gone with a turn check. Don't mind it being called retarded if you must but appreciate some constructive input please.

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The river isn't going to get raised often enough for making it a big concern. If I'm checking the it's to raise ai because that would look like garbage and it will get paid off pretty light (a pretty decent line imo). I wouldn't check because I would like to see a cheap sd.

Sorry if I came off harsch, but even if checking the turn would be the correct play (which is what your assuming in the first post qouted) it could be because you're getting paid off light on the river. Or it could be because he's looking for a c/r on the turn. Etc. So there doesn't need to be any incongruens between checking turn and betting river when it gets checked through. His check behind on the turn gives us additional information.

Nick Royale · #29 10-15-2007, 07:56 AM

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What do you think of the turn? More importantly, do you call the river?

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The most important part of this hand is betting the turn and it's not close.

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Absolutely no need to.

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Ok, note taken.

Brian O'Nolan · #30 10-15-2007, 10:09 AM

I like this spot for a river shove with no pair... I wouldn't be real confident that most people can fold an overpair here but if you got a decent read I like it. Your line is reasonable for JJ/TT. I think pf is good too if this guy could ever fold AA on this river.