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11-29-2007, 08:10 PM
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Re: Low limit stud says it\'s correct to complete the bring in....
I think there was just a thread on this. The consensus was to pretty much never bring in full (in a full ring game). Ray Zee agreed and a lot of players say to NEVER bring in full. Kammen is way outnumbered here. I haven't read his book, but it doesn't get rave reviews. He has posted here in the past so maybe he wants to explain his reasoning...
Edit: the OP there was you...is this a different question than before? 
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#2
11-29-2007, 08:14 PM
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Re: Low limit stud says it\'s correct to complete the bring in....
Nope, I just reread the book to clarify his exact statement.
So does he contradict himself in someway since he says not to raise the bet with a premium pair if there are two higher cards yet to act, yet he just plainly states to bring in full with jacks concealed.
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#3
11-30-2007, 04:28 PM
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Re: Low limit stud says it\'s correct to complete the bring in....
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I think there was just a thread on this. The consensus was to pretty much never bring in full (in a full ring game). Ray Zee agreed and a lot of players say to NEVER bring in full. Kammen is way outnumbered here. I haven't read his book, but it doesn't get rave reviews. He has posted here in the past so maybe he wants to explain his reasoning... Edit: the OP there was you...is this a different question than before? [/ QUOTE ] Let me interject a slightly different question than before then. Say you're at a full, loose, low-limit table with a high ante (1/5 or 1/4 of a SB) and the 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] brings it in. You're next to act with: (J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img])3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. What's your play (dependent on how the rest of the board looks)?
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#4
11-30-2007, 04:41 PM
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Re: Low limit stud says it\'s correct to complete the bring in....
I am raising at a loose low limit table pretty much 90% of the time. The wired pair helps the deception of the hand which could turn into a very nice hand, as well as I'm usually raising with most premium pairs as long as there isn't more than 2 higher door cards left to act.
So I'm raising here as long as there are 2 or less higher door cards than my jacks.
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11-30-2007, 04:55 PM
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Re: Low limit stud says it\'s correct to complete the bring in....
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SG UTG 95% easy limp, very easy [/ QUOTE ] No. If you have jacks that are better than any other door card showing why on earth are you limping. You are asking to get drawn on.
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#8
11-30-2007, 05:01 PM
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Re: Low limit stud says it\'s correct to complete the bring in....
wrong context. Don't tag onto Ray Zee's nuts just because he says something. Here you want to raise if there aren't any other door cards behind you. Good if they put you on jacks then they wont call and you win the pot. You are crazy not to raise at a loose low-limit table here because you will get callers anyway who aren't thinking gee he must have jacks, they are thinking he probably has a pair of 2s.
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#9
12-01-2007, 01:11 AM
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Re: Low limit stud says it\'s correct to complete the bring in....
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Reason why??? "if someone can put you accurately on a pair in the hole you are toast as they get to play their hand almost perfectly" [/ QUOTE ] Ok, thanks for the comments. Do you play it the same way with split JJ?
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#10
12-01-2007, 03:20 AM
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Re: Low limit stud says it\'s correct to complete the bring in....
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Reason why??? "if someone can put you accurately on a pair in the hole you are toast as they get to play their hand almost perfectly" [/ QUOTE ] Low limit players rarely put you on anything accurately, and even when they do, they still make mistakes.
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