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Old 11-23-2007, 06:17 AM
yellowsub yellowsub is offline
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

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I think folding is really terrible here

I'd just call..

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id just call?

its a lot closer to a fold than a raise

i think i fold, this is one of those dumb spots that he very rarely shows up with a worse 10, and hes almost never bluffing here

as far as what he checked the flop with i have no idea, AT perhaps?
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:30 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

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I think folding is really terrible here

I'd just call..

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id just call?

its a lot closer to a fold than a raise

i think i fold, this is one of those dumb spots that he very rarely shows up with a worse 10, and hes almost never bluffing here

as far as what he checked the flop with i have no idea, AT perhaps?

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"I'd just call" does not suggest I have any plans of raising.

I just wouldn't fold here vs him. I think his bluff frequency here is higher than you do, but I could easily be wrong about that.

I'd call > fold >>>>>>> play aba HU for rolls > raise
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:40 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

Call. Hate poker.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:55 AM
MaverickUSC MaverickUSC is offline
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

Easy call. Scotty will also do this with an AQish type hand planning on C/R the flop. He will make this sick value bet in marginal spots where he thinks he's barely good but also thinks he's getting called. He'll do this with AT just as much as Tx or Qx or JJ or whatever.

Also though, I kinda like a turn raise planning to check river behind unimproved.

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Old 11-23-2007, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

I'd call for sure. You're getting 14:3 and we know Scotty's capable of some crazy [censored].
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:47 AM
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Call. Hate poker.

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my original thoughts as well
however
starting with 13.5k stacks, spite calling an extra 3k here def hurts a lot, and i think its important to really try to make a read here in addition to just playing the odds.
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Old 11-24-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

Scotty Nguyen tabled 22 then goes "Haha! All you have to do is check to them baaaaby!"

I took out my wallet and asked him if he wanted what was in there as long as i was just gonna pay him off all day.

Live players love the slow play and don't you forget it, no matter how bad the board/situation to do so.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:12 AM
LuckyLloyd LuckyLloyd is offline
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Scotty Nguyen tabled 22 then goes "Haha! All you have to do is check to them baaaaby!"

I took out my wallet and asked him if he wanted what was in there as long as i was just gonna pay him off all day.

Live players love the slow play and don't you forget it, no matter how bad the board/situation to do so.

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Yuck. And lol. 22? lol.
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Old 11-24-2007, 07:11 AM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: Gross spot vs Scotty Nguyen in Macau ME

wow, his flop check is somewhat sick for sure but he played the rest of the hand well indeed.
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