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Old 11-13-2007, 01:41 PM
joseki joseki is offline
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Default TPTK v. donk and tag

SB is 25/14/2.5 over 400+
BB is 46/47/3.6 over ~50 hands; he made persistent small bets and called a small c/r w/ AK unimproved a few hands ago.

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Hero ($54.45)
MP ($27.10)
Button ($15.95)
SB ($52.80)
BB ($43.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, SB calls $13, BB folds.

Turn: ($34.25) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero wonders if he's ever ahead after that flop cold call...
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:45 PM
FalconTi0 FalconTi0 is offline
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Default Re: TPTK v. donk and tag

i think you go ahead and bet like 25 here. he probably has something like JT or QJ
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: TPTK v. donk and tag

I probably check behind. That cold-call looks super strong, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he c/r the turn here.

I probably call a 1/2 pot bet on the river, if checked to I lead for about 1/2 the pot.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: TPTK v. donk and tag

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i think you go ahead and bet like 25 here. he probably has something like JT or QJ

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How many tags do you know that would cold call a 3-bet OOP with TPGK?
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: TPTK v. donk and tag

25/14 doesnt seem all that tag to me
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: TPTK v. donk and tag

whats his wtsd? are you asking us how to get value? 2/3 turn or better yet shove. This guy is uber agro. He prolly calls with 2pr/fd and Jx. shove shove shove
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oops didnt see SB tagging along... this is really sticky I prolly bet here and watch for timing tell to see if I call a shove from sb LOL.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: TPTK v. donk and tag

What are you hoping for playing AJo other than a flop/turn like this?

The TAG SB calls the PFR which could mean high cards, pocket pair, etc. He cold calls on the flop, which could mean an overpair, but does he play QQ that way? KK? AA? I doubt it. AK, AQ, AJ, KQ, MAYBE KJ or suited connectors in the SB. He could feasibly cold call with KJ or 9d10d, but I'd think a TAG would re-raise with trips on a two-tone flop; it doesn't have to mean trips necessarily. If your read is that he'd do that with the 15 outer, I'd make a PSB/3b here and if he's got trips, c'est la vie.
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: TPTK v. donk and tag

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i think you go ahead and bet like 25 here. he probably has something like JT or QJ

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No way! JJ, 88, 44 have you dominated. Check behind for pot control and pray for your 2-outer on the river.

AC
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:01 PM
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25/14 doesnt seem all that tag to me

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sry, tagish. thx for the input.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:02 PM
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Default Re: TPTK v. donk and tag

Your flop raise is a little too big IMO. Make it $10 instead. After the smooth call by SB, I'm checking behind on the turn (as hard as that may seem). This just wreaks of a set.

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