The NL kids who short stack omaha now

[ArmenH]

It's very hard to make mistakes when you buy in for minimum. He's just trying pushing when he's getting good odds on his money. Kind of gay.

[Ansky]

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peachykeen is doing it, doesn't seem to be working too well for him but i think he's jus trying to learn the game still so he's startin off small. also it seems like both of his accts have been playin at once dk what's up with that

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what 2 accounts?

[LucidDream]

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shortstacking in omaha is much less effective.

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i'm pretty sure this isn't true. there's a lot of people making a lot of money doing this.

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im not saying people can't do it very successfully. but a shortstacker can never have as big of an equity advantage in PLO as compared to NL.

[limon]

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shortstacking in omaha is much less effective.

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i'm pretty sure this isn't true. there's a lot of people making a lot of money doing this.

tc

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this is true. less effective doesnt equal not effective.

the main mistake people make against shortstackers is calling their bets/raises with hands that are severely dominated and they have no implied odds or bluff opportunites. in omaha fewer hands are severely dominated (especially pre flop)

[Dilznoofus]

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i think it's weird that everyone in the world hates shortstackers, but when durrrr and raptor rathole, no one says anything.

i don't have a problem with it, whatever makes you the money, but it's sad the double standard on this forum.

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Those who hate shortstackers don't understand the game. But what do you care?

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Could you elaborate?

[Victor]

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shortstacking in omaha is much less effective.

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i'm pretty sure this isn't true. there's a lot of people making a lot of money doing this.

tc

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im not saying people can't do it very successfully. but a shortstacker can never have as big of an equity advantage in PLO as compared to NL.

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doesnt this work both ways? one can never be as big a dog either.

[plzbenice]

prett sure i saw dirksen up 500K+ on highstakes.nu

[Micturition Man]

I think the advantage is bigger in PLO.

Hands being closer in value means:

1. You can stick it in pre more often,

2. You gain a lot more by being all-in on the flop because even when you missed the flop you still have substantial equity... in NL when you miss you are typically way behind.

3. The preflop domination effect is a lot less significant in PLO which means you will rarely be hurt for your inability to get 100 BB's in preflop. (Except against big donks.)

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4. In practice it is WAY more common for someone to play PLO too loose than to play NLHE too loose. (I would say easily 80%+ of FTP 200/400 PLO players play too loose pre.)

[augie_]

its simple why omaha is way better to shortstack than HE. you can resteal and when you get called, its 51/49 no matter what tyou have

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its simple why omaha is way better to shortstack than HE. you can resteal and when you get called, its 51/49 no matter what tyou have

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Pretty much :-). If anyone's interested, Rolf Slotboom's book has some interesting discussion of short-stacking PLO.