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#31
09-19-2007, 12:10 PM
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Re: 200nl - AK flops TP and faces heat from aggro opponent.
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i see this all the itme - villain rasies flop with his 2 pair, set, draw whatever. he hits nuts on the turn and thinks "i are so tricky, i bet tiny on turn cuz nothing can draw out on me now!! ooooh river, time to get some value!" [/ QUOTE ] Um, seems pretty smart to me actually, since everybody else here is willing to pay off. [ QUOTE ] c) if he has some kind of draw, he like never bets turn that weakly. [/ QUOTE ] I think the key to this hand is that Villain has position, and really none of his bets make sense with a draw. I mean, he'd have to be clueless to raise a draw on the flop with an Ace out there. You get called way too often. Just float and bluff the river if you feel like making a move. 
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#32
09-19-2007, 12:50 PM
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Re: 200nl - AK flops TP and faces heat from aggro opponent.
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[ QUOTE ] Use the info from that hand to chase the dude around from table to table. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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#33
09-19-2007, 01:01 PM
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Re: 200nl - AK flops TP and faces heat from aggro opponent.
I actually don't mind this line assuming a river call. I'm not too experienced with this type of opponent so I'm not sure if a more aggro line would be better. Results?
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#34
09-19-2007, 01:08 PM
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Re: 200nl - AK flops TP and faces heat from aggro opponent.
Yeah, raising or check-raising the turn would have been better. OP would either win outright, block a river bluff, or more easily c/f river.
The smallish turn bet is awfully weird for a draw, but it's plausibly a feeler bet to set up a river bluff. In that case the river does seem like an attempt to push off AJ-AT, TT, or a busted draw. In this case, Villan could have TT-JJ, Ax. Villan's line also seems like two pair or better. When he loses showdowns, is he checking it down, calling, or betting with the worst hand? If it's the latter, then maybe a call. Otherwise fold.
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#35
09-19-2007, 01:19 PM
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Re: 200nl - AK flops TP and faces heat from aggro opponent.
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I mean, he'd have to be clueless to raise a draw on the flop with an Ace out there. [/ QUOTE ] What the hell. OP raises from CO, I don't know how often exactly an Ace is in his range but probably less than 20%. Bluff raising on an Ace board is a good move as it's hard for villain to continue without an Ace.
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#37
09-19-2007, 01:36 PM
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Re: 200nl - AK flops TP and faces heat from aggro opponent.
You didn't lead turn because you didn't feel villain was on a draw, then why did you check river? to let him bluff what? I bet/fold $65 on river.
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#38
09-19-2007, 01:37 PM
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Re: 200nl - AK flops TP and faces heat from aggro opponent.
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[ QUOTE ] I mean, he'd have to be clueless to raise a draw on the flop with an Ace out there. [/ QUOTE ] What the hell. OP raises from CO, I don't know how often exactly an Ace is in his range but probably less than 20%. Bluff raising on an Ace board is a good move as it's hard for villain to continue without an Ace. [/ QUOTE ] I didn't say a bluff. I said a draw. And if less than 20% of your CO raises have an Ace, please come play at my tables.
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#39
09-19-2007, 01:38 PM
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Re: 200nl - AK flops TP and faces heat from aggro opponent.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Use the info from that hand to chase the dude around from table to table. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] LOL at "chasing this dude". You really think you have any significant edge? Go chase the fish.
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#40
09-19-2007, 01:42 PM
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Re: 200nl - AK flops TP and faces heat from aggro opponent.
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You didn't lead turn because you didn't feel villain was on a draw, then why did you check river? to let him bluff what? I bet/fold $65 on river. [/ QUOTE ] not crazy about doing this against an aggressive opponent unless i'd be willing to bet/call, which i don't really wanna do here. i checked the river because i was unsure whether i was ahead or not and was hope to get to showdown cheaply (kinda hard to do when oop I know). just because i didn't put him on a draw, doesn't make me more confident in whether i have the best hand or not4
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