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Old 09-25-2007, 01:43 AM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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i prefer a flop checkraise because any pocket pair bets, UTG may still donk, button may still bet his AK when checked to. the only thing the donk does is insure a bet goes in when UTG doesn't donk himself and button has and checks behind AK.

turn i would never consider betting.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:48 AM
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Flop is a c/r for me.

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Anyone else have any thoughts on this or the turn check?

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CO 3-bet a UTG PFR and capped the flop. its fine.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:09 AM
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i prefer a flop checkraise because any pocket pair bets, UTG may still donk, button may still bet his AK when checked to. the only thing the donk does is insure a bet goes in when UTG doesn't donk himself and button has and checks behind AK.

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Yeah this makes sense. Plus there aren't any reasonable gut shots and we hold one of the two overs. Therefore a free card hurts less. So if the action goes CO bets, SB folds, we c/r, UTG calls, CO 3-bets, what's the plan?
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:19 AM
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sometimes people say some really incredible things on this forum. for example, check folding this river.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:20 AM
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pf is fine by me.

Flop is a c/r for me.

River i c/c. Even an UTG bet. He can have a Q here 100%.

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Old 09-25-2007, 02:22 AM
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Default Re: Questionable on every street

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sometimes people say some really incredible things on this forum. for example, check folding this river.

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yeah i don't see how the river can be anything other than c/c 1 bet no matter who it is from

as for flop c/r, if we are 3bet by co i dunno since we have so few hands on villain. when tightish seeming players call 2 cold in bb here i auto give them like 77-99/AJ-AQ/KQ so I'd prolly just call down but im a nit.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:25 AM
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sometimes people say some really incredible things on this forum. for example, check folding this river.

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some opponents will have the flush ~100% here, but I'd probably still c/c. I'm not that concerned about missing one bet vs a badly played pocket pair.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:49 AM
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flop cr is better to put pressure on utg, and like i said i think u have to not let the turn check tho.
if u were gonna shut down after the cap i like b/c the flop donk the turn better.
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Old 09-25-2007, 04:15 AM
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when I read OP I thought, hmm I c/r the flop.

as played I think the river bet is bad. the hands you are ahead of aren't calling (your donk on the flop could easily have been a flush draw) and the hands you are behind are raising.

should have added that I c/c the river as well. I think c/f'ing is not good in this spot.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:24 PM
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Default Re: Questionable on every street

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sometimes people say some really incredible things on this forum. for example, check folding this river.

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i said it to emphasize how bad i thought the bet was. what i want to happen on the river is a utg bet and co raise so i can make the easiest decision ever. if it checks to co and he bets, i think maybe 5-10% of the time we're good (0% if i'm co), so it's close at 13bb. if utg bets and co folds, i insta-call. if utg bets and co calls, i'd call too.
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