Marginal/"High Variance" play against EmpireMaker2

[Ansky]

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dont worry it's not marginal at all

it's just complete spew

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[DCal Zone]

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dont worry it's not marginal at all

it's just complete spew

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So you think he has 77 or J9 a huge % of the time here?

[Moonshine]

You're forgetting about AJ spades, KJ spades, both of which call your turn shove and have you crushed.

he can also have 8T.

you have the Qs so QTs, one of his biggest semi bluffing hands is not in his range here.

I think his range here is JJ (not that likely since you're deep), 77, 99, AJs, KJs, 8T, 97, J9, Ax spades, and complete air on the flop.

i think he checks Ax spades behind on that turn a good portion of the time. i think he gives up on air a good portion too.

like i said though, you wayyy underestimated his range of made hands

[DCal Zone]

well he folded.

I suppose I underestimated the amount of hands that beat me than he'd call with. Thank you for the feedback.

[Big_Jim]

I'd just fold the flop.

This is obviously fine, sometimes, with reads.

I have no idea about your history, and I haven't played Empire, though.

[Moonshine]

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well he folded.

I suppose I underestimated the amount of hands that beat me than he'd call with. Thank you for the feedback.

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that's good that you post hands you won though

i think this is a pretty crappy spot for him to bluff, given the turn card and fact that with these stack sizes are such that people often will c/r this turn with monsters

looking at the money in the pot, you had to be ahead there about 50% to make that profitable right?

just seems too high to me...

[FGators]

Probably KJ/AJ are only in his range if they come with a flush draw, too. I think this really is spew. Only thing you can hope for is something like K10 of spades. Q10 of spades would be very likely but since you have the Q of spades thats discounted. I really don't see what you can beat. You've turned a marginal hand into a bluff against a nitty player.

[ArturiusX]

I don't think its as bad as everyone says, but I don't like how you got there, first of all.

[BalugaWhale]

i am sure empire raises with a 9 on this flop plenty