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Old 04-24-2007, 06:43 AM
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especially since the bet/3-bet alone looks pretty weak.

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lol, ok

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you think most people take this line with a set? Do you take this line with a set?
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:44 AM
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leave you in a terrible spot on the turn

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I'm pretty sure it's impossible for me to ever be in a terrible spot, in this hand.

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how so?

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pretty sure ten high is no good here

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it's not often good preflop either, may aswell just fold there too then under this assumption?
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:48 AM
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Default Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6

wtf does that have to do with terrible turn spots?
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:50 AM
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given your depth I think that a turn bet is strong against some people if they just call the [flop]

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I think checking the turn is best because we will often get a free card.

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I'd rather take the pot, than a free card.

While I may get a free card, I hate having to c/c the all in here, and a river bluff looks a bit iffy.

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you think most people take this line with a set?

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Sometimes... I mean..this is Super System 101.

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Do you take this line with a set?

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Sometimes, but not with the metagame in place in this hand.

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it's not often good preflop either, may aswell just fold there too then under this assumption?

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lol wtf
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:51 AM
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Maybe I should incorporate donking into my play but I usually c/r my gutter in situations like this. You think donking is better?

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I mix it up between the two.

Both can be good plays, IMO.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:52 AM
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Default Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6

Looks good to me, the thread of the rest of your stack will seem him fold a lot. I think he folds QJ type stuff which is the idea.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:55 AM
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given your depth I think that a turn bet is strong against some people if they just call the [flop]

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I think checking the turn is best because we will often get a free card.

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I'd rather take the pot, than a free card.

While I may get a free card, I hate having to c/c the all in here, and a river bluff looks a bit iffy.

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you think most people take this line with a set?

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Sometimes... I mean..this is Super System 101.

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Do you take this line with a set?

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Sometimes, but not with the metagame in place in this hand.

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it's not often good preflop either, may aswell just fold there too then under this assumption?

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lol wtf

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he said "we aren't in a terrible spot on the turn because we have T high and it's probable not good". It still leaves you completely in the dark about his range, and how often he folds each.

For instance, he may not raise AJ on the flop, he may raise/call AJ. On the turn he may have a set, he may have AJ he may have TT, and we don't often know his frequencies for calling any of these or folding them.......... which leaves us in a tough spot when deciding whether or not to bet again (as a bluff because T high is obviously no good)

Sometimes we hit a second draw and his range may just be sets, in which case we are getting it in bad by bet/calling 700 into 550 pot.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:57 AM
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Looks good to me, the thread of the rest of your stack will seem him fold a lot. I think he folds QJ type stuff which is the idea.

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I don't think many players raise QJ here but I agree with stack sizes being threatening when taking strong lines. In my opinion bet/3-betting a dry board is not that threatening unless you are really incompetent.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:58 AM
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which leaves us in a tough spot when deciding whether or not to bet again

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But I already made my decision, when I made my 3bet.

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Sometimes we hit a second draw and his range may just be sets, in which case we are getting it in bad by bet/calling 700 into 550 pot.

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Gamble gamble.
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Old 04-24-2007, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: Semi-Bluff on a Dry Board: $3/$6

what exactly is your definition of a terrible spot?
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