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Old 06-05-2007, 12:40 AM
vixticator vixticator is offline
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If you're raising pre-flop with a lot of broadway cards and a bunch of suited connectors I think you need to rethink your UTG raising range.

[/ QUOTE ]Depends on table, of course I don't have the exact same range UTG everywhere. Especially if the table is weak-tight and the blinds VPIP is lower than 35... I'm raising a lot of hands UTG. Why? Because no one 3bets UTG without premium hands and fold constantly to cont bets.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:41 AM
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AQ is ahead of a UTGs 15 PFR range.



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My PFR is around 15. My UTG PFR is more like 7.5 So you have to remember he's not raising 15 from every position. He's likely raising a lot more in LP and a lot less in EP.

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AQ is def ahead of top 7.5% of hands. AQ is the 5th-6th best hand.

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You're OOP though and are going to lose to nothing a lot...I think you're barely ever going to win a sizeable pot here. I think it's just a terrible reverse implied odds situation.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:42 AM
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Without any info on how positionally aware villain is I FOLD AQo to a TAGs UTG raise...AQo will not play well OOP vs a tight raisers UTG range...You will either win a small pot or lose a big pot...Position is the key to this hand...Being OOP it will be very difficult to control the size of the pot...
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - AQ in BB against tag

calling or folding seems ok, I like folding more cuz his range is smaller cuz hes utg and cuz ur oop any other position Id reraise or cold call. If u hit ur hand ur less likely to get paid by worse and more likely to lose more when ur beat, my main reason to fold those is that his cbet will take the pot on the flop 2/3 of the time
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Old 06-05-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - AQ in BB against tag

Thanks for the replies.

results: I called river and he had 33 [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:18 AM
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I agree 100% with Lego. Check his button steal stats; if they are high he is probably positionally aware therefore he is NOT going to be raising the full 15% UTG because he knows he needs a bigger hand. As a result I am going to give him a lot more respect and muck this hand pre-flop.
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:21 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - AQ in BB against tag

Top 11.9%:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

220,887,216 games 0.005 secs 44,177,443,200 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.423% 45.15% 04.27% 99732280 9436947.50 { AcQs }
Hand 1: 50.577% 46.30% 04.27% 102281041 9436947.50 { 22+, ATs+, KQs, ATo+, KQo }

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Old 06-05-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - AQ in BB against tag

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Top 11.9%:

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

220,887,216 games 0.005 secs 44,177,443,200 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.423% 45.15% 04.27% 99732280 9436947.50 { AcQs }
Hand 1: 50.577% 46.30% 04.27% 102281041 9436947.50 { 22+, ATs+, KQs, ATo+, KQo }

Dumle

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The preflop hand matchups are largely meaningless. You only flop a pair about 1/3 of the time. Most of the flops you hit, your maximum win is a c-bet, and you frequently lose a good amount when the ace flops and he has AK or the queen flops and he has KK or AA. I'm pretty sure calling for value is a losing play.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - AQ in BB against tag

I think I might stop and go the turn just because it gives you such a clear answer.
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