$25NL - JJ. Preflop and flop.

Oasis88 · #1 06-05-2007, 02:25 AM

Reads: Have villain at 40/9/1.8 over about 90 hands. Previous hand I 3bet him pre-flop with queens and raised his c-bet on the flop. He mucked and I had him for AK which he admitted to.

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Hero ($29.78)
BB ($9.75)
UTG ($25.39)
MP ($3.74)
CO ($13.57)
Button ($21.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises to $0.85, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($1.95) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.95, Hero folds.

I think I am not doing too well against his pre-flop raising range (8%) so I do not know if a 3-bet is in order. I did this on the previous hand with QQ. He is only stealing less than 20% of the time on the button so I have to respect that range, even though it may be a little looser.

I elected to call and see the flop but once that over card comes I can't do much in this spot right? Especially when he can be on AK. Maybe I can blow him off his JJ or TT with a raise but unlikely against a 25NL player.

Is my analysis correct?

whoisthedrizzle · #2 06-05-2007, 02:31 AM

I'd mostly three bet preflop. He's on the button so you don't necessarily have to give him respect and it really sucks to play this OOP postflop, especially when an overcard comes. I guess you could donk the flop as played, but these types of situations are why I'd prefer to three bet preflop.

Oasis88 · #3 06-05-2007, 02:34 AM

Is that lack of respect regardless of the fact that he is stealing less than 20% of the time? All those times he open folds the button...

jordiepop · #4 06-05-2007, 03:36 AM

this is a mandatory three bet , the sample size is pretty small, and its a button raise following three folds.

Dilznoofus · #5 06-05-2007, 03:45 AM

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Is that lack of respect regardless of the fact that he is stealing less than 20% of the time? All those times he open folds the button...

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I used to play 22/7 with some ridiculously low ATSB percentage and even I would raise a pretty wide range first in OTB. I would 3-bet this for sure.

DrazzicEhv · #6 06-05-2007, 04:05 AM

3-bet and bet the flop if you check he will bet for sure and you can't know where you stand if he calls he might be beaten so watch out for the turn. JJ is hard to play OOP you want to win this preflop you are almost sure the best hand preflop.