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#1
12-01-2007, 11:31 AM
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Re: management argue
With all due respect to the card barns, I feel that they are wrong. I think the Hawaiin Gardens rule is better, but problematic as well.
The "double the bet rule" has merits, but takes away from some strategy aspects of the game. If the bet must be at least double the prvious bet, does this apply from one betting street to the next? For example, 100-200 blinds,if a player raises to 600 pre flop, and gets reraised to 1200, does that mean the minimum post flop bet is 200, or 1200? Also, by forcing players to double the previous bet, it changes the strategy, in that a plyer is prohibited from making a bet that comes closer to the "perfect bet" principle(a bet that gives the opponent incorrect calling odds, but small enough that the opponent will stil call). 
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12-01-2007, 11:36 AM
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Re: management argue
Also,
The fact that some decision makers felt that an all-in raise of 1300 could then be "rased" to 1400 was asinine to me. I have no idea how to justify that decision.
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#3
12-01-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: management argue
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Also, The fact that some decision makers felt that an all-in raise of 1300 could then be "rased" to 1400 was asinine to me. I have no idea how to justify that decision. [/ QUOTE ] They in fact used the word "completed" (a limit concept I know) since the $500 raise to $1300 was less than a full raise and "action only". Had this been limit it would be treated as a full raise since it was more than half. The floor I spoke with at length aggreed it would be problematic and seems to realize that the rules he has to work with don't work all that well for no limit. ~ Rick
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#4
12-01-2007, 04:14 PM
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Re: management argue
[ QUOTE ]
With all due respect to the card barns, I feel that they are wrong. I think the Hawaiin Gardens rule is better, but problematic as well. The "double the bet rule" has merits, but takes away from some strategy aspects of the game. If the bet must be at least double the prvious bet, does this apply from one betting street to the next? For example, 100-200 blinds,if a player raises to 600 pre flop, and gets reraised to 1200, does that mean the minimum post flop bet is 200, or 1200? [/ QUOTE ] Perhaps I'm using the wrong wording (and don't have a copy of HG's wording; they keep hard copies of their rules close to the vest). By "double the bet" I mean you must raise at least double the amount of action you are facing. For example Player A lead bets for $20, Player B calls $20, Player C raises $60 more making it $80. The next minimum raise would have to make it $160 (i.e., doubling $80). This has no impact on the minimum required lead bet (which remains the size of the big blind on all rounds). [ QUOTE ] Also, by forcing players to double the previous bet, it changes the strategy, in that a plyer is prohibited from making a bet that comes closer to the "perfect bet" principle(a bet that gives the opponent incorrect calling odds, but small enough that the opponent will stil call). [/ QUOTE ] As noted above HG is not forcing players to double the previous bet; rather they want a minimum raise to be double the previous action on that round. ~ Rick
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