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Old 05-19-2007, 08:26 PM
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Default 3 hands: so don\'t look if you hate that

This table was so ripe I started playing a few suited one gappers (not my style as a rule) Since I chose to play them; Did I play them OK? There was no chance, at this table, to reduce the field. I was playing them for big hand/big pot value.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

River: (10.20 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 10.20 BB

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (5.40 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: 3.20 BB

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (5.20 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 7.20 BB
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Old 05-19-2007, 08:42 PM
nomadtla nomadtla is offline
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Default Re: 3 hands: so don\'t look if you hate that

Hand 1: The flop raise is sexy. I don't really like the turn bet if no one is folding. I supose it is acctually for value since you have so many outs. I just don't like betting turns in multi-way pots without made hands if I know there is 0 chance of taking it down right there.

Hand 2: standard given the table dynamic you describe

Hand 3: I like raising this preflop for fun when we have ultimate position. Rest of the hand looks pretty standard to me


Edit: BTW one hand per thread will probably get more responses [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-19-2007, 08:46 PM
that_guy_33 that_guy_33 is offline
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Default Re: 3 hands: so don\'t look if you hate that

Hand one, I agree with post above. Take free card.

Hands two and three: nice hands. Not sure why you posted hand 2 though. Are you just worried about being too loose preflop?
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Old 05-19-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: 3 hands: so don\'t look if you hate that

[ QUOTE ]
. Are you just worried about being too loose preflop?

[/ QUOTE ]

No not at all. I actually tend to be too tight preflop. (18% FR and 25% 6max) Playing these hands was just an anomaly born of the loose table situation. Which I guess was part of my question. i.e. does a real loose table like this make these +EV to play? I included all three because they were all J9s and all within a couple of orbits.
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: 3 hands: so don\'t look if you hate that

*Grunch*
LOL. The first two hands are trivial.
The third, however, is different: I think, the turn bet is the real interesting decision.
If villain is aggressive enough, try to induce a bluff by checking behind.
If he/she/it is not, the bet I like.

However, the bet on 5th street is spew IMO b/c very few hands you beat will call here. So just check behind.

Yes. And you are too loose preflop. J9s FR in early position is just not good enough.
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Old 05-19-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: 3 hands: so don\'t look if you hate that

Do yourself a favor &amp; just don't bet draws with 0 FE on the turn.
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