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Old 10-17-2007, 02:11 PM
jk3a jk3a is offline
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Villain is 25/12/2 thru 800. We've played lots together. He likely views me as an idiot and I consider him a TAG fish. He doesn't like to fold to me or at all. He's calling this 3bet with most of the hands he opened. Does anyone c/f the flop? As played, keep in mind, we have almost no FE and he has just under a PSB left.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (BB): $262.30
UTG: $287.15
MP: $200
CO: $73.45
BTN: $186.45
SB: $195

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26</font>, BTN calls $19

Flop: ($53) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $39</font>, BTN calls $39

Turn: ($131) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:12 PM
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I check fold flop.
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:20 PM
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in this case i may just call PF and get aggro if i flop something. as he is giving us no respect, he may stack off on a Q52 flop or something with QJ against us.

c/f is ok on the flop

i would shove the turn now. we have tonnes of outs and he may be not folding because he doesn't respect us with a hand that can't call the turn like AK or something
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:23 PM
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He likely views me as an idiot

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haha..what did you do?

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He's calling this 3bet with most of the hands he opened.
As played, keep in mind, we have almost no FE and he has just under a PSB left.


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With these things in mind, either call or push pf.
Edit: i'm stupid...you meant as played on the turn..not flop...ok, then call pf
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:23 PM
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If we have 20% FE and 20% avg. equity against his calling range, a shove is def -EV
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:37 PM
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If we have 20% FE and 20% avg. equity against his calling range, a shove is def -EV

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We definitely have way more than 20% equity against his calling range. Our nut FD alone is worth 20%.
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:41 PM
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I think you have to tell us villains name and then more people will respond.
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:43 PM
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I think you have to tell us villains name and then more people will respond.

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not every thread is about you is it?

as played I shove the turn.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:30 PM
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I definitely c/f flop a lot vs someone with this kind of history. As played, I don't see how you can really do anything but shove. You have two overs, the nut frush draw and a 20% chance of taking down the pot right now.

Plus, when you play a tagfish a lot and he thinks you're an idiot, you've gotta fuel that fire every chance you get.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:48 PM
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I definitely c/f flop a lot vs someone with this kind of history. As played, I don't see how you can really do anything but shove. You have two overs, the nut frush draw and a 20% chance of taking down the pot right now.

Plus, when you play a tagfish a lot and he thinks you're an idiot, you've gotta fuel that fire every chance you get.

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I honestly think 20% is a stretch and even if our avg. equity against his calling range is ~25%, this is such a marginal spot. I think I like c/f that flop best.
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