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Old 08-06-2007, 04:06 PM
Bond18 Bond18 is offline
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Default Um, fold QQ pre?

Stars 20r well past rebuy period.

UTG is Wubanga, UTG+1 is unknown

My stack: 5800
UTG: 8200
UTG+1: 20,000

I hold QQ on the button, blinds 150/300 with 25 ante.

Preflop: UTG raises to 900, utg+1 raises to 2700, folds to hero on button, hero?
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: Um, fold QQ pre?

If utg and utg+1 were reversed, I think I could find a fold, but not in this situation.
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Um, fold QQ pre?

i'm not good enough to find a fold here. i push
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:30 PM
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Default Re: Um, fold QQ pre?

I RERAISE.

THE MINIMUM.
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Old 08-06-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Um, fold QQ pre?

shove, u have 19bbs his range is wide enough.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: Um, fold QQ pre?

Bond,

Can you explain what significance Wubanga being UTG has to the hand? I'm not as familiar with the tourney regs as everyone else is here.

In any case, without the rockiest of rocks in both UTG and UTG+1, I'm really never finding a fold here with less than 20BBs.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Um, fold QQ pre?

If UTG+1's reraising range is JJ+/AK or wider, I think it's fine to shove.
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: Um, fold QQ pre?

Yea I think UTG can def have JJ+/AK here in which case you're good getting in the 5800 to win 7375, if he can't have JJ though you're in trouble, but I think an unknown 20r player with that stack goes to 2700 here with JJ+/AK at least.
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Um, fold QQ pre?

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Bond,

Can you explain what significance Wubanga being UTG has to the hand? I'm not as familiar with the tourney regs as everyone else is here.

In any case, without the rockiest of rocks in both UTG and UTG+1, I'm really never finding a fold here with less than 20BBs.

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wubanga is pretty tight (tag) but knows what hes doing.
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Old 08-06-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: Um, fold QQ pre?

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If utg and utg+1 were reversed, I think I could find a fold, but not in this situation.

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Agreed, but if the seats were reversed, I'd fold almost every time.
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