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12-30-2006, 11:44 AM
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Re: Israel is arming the PA
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Given that Israel supported the rise of Hamas as a Muslim counterbalance to the secular Fatah movement, this is not surprising. [/ QUOTE ] Odd that. I refer you to my first post in this thread on the best way for Israel to get what it wants -- the absence of a peaceful settlement with Palestinians still living in the WB. BTW, IMO, it is OK for Israel to want that -- it is simply not OK for the US government to support them in wanting that and for arming them to get that. The fundamental cause of anger and terrorist attacks against the US. 
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#13
12-30-2006, 04:14 PM
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Re: Israel is arming the PA
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[ QUOTE ] Abbas doers not have the legal power to call new elections. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, he does. [/ QUOTE ] OK. Perhpas you're right; my understanding is that he doesn't. Please show me where PA law provides for the president to call for new elections. I have yet to see someone do so.
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#14
12-30-2006, 09:21 PM
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Re: Israel is arming the PA
It's up in the air. From this article:
[ QUOTE ] The Palestinian basic law, which acts as a constitution, has no provision for calling early elections. Fatah officials say Abbas can do so by issuing a presidential decree. Hamas says that would be illegal. [/ QUOTE ] Who knows what will happen. But it seems likely that the U.S. and Israel would favor a broader interpretation that permits an early election. If you are the sort of person who thinks that Hamas is more distasteful than Fatah, is it worth possibly circumventing democracy and the rule of law in order to do so (which seems like a horrific precedent to set), especially considering that a Fatah win is not set in stone?
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#15
12-30-2006, 10:28 PM
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It's up in the air. From this article: [ QUOTE ] The Palestinian basic law, which acts as a constitution, has no provision for calling early elections. Fatah officials say Abbas can do so by issuing a presidential decree. Hamas says that would be illegal. [/ QUOTE ] Who knows what will happen. But it seems likely that the U.S. and Israel would favor a broader interpretation that permits an early election. If you are the sort of person who thinks that Hamas is more distasteful than Fatah, is it worth possibly circumventing democracy and the rule of law in order to do so (which seems like a horrific precedent to set), especially considering that a Fatah win is not set in stone? [/ QUOTE ] I don;t see how it's "up in the air" unless someone can show that the President specifically has the right to use a decree to call for early legislative elections. Such pro-Hamas sources as The Economist suggest that he doesn't, calling his demand an "empty threat" .
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#16
12-30-2006, 11:28 PM
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Re: Israel is arming the PA
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[ QUOTE ] It's up in the air. From this article: [ QUOTE ] The Palestinian basic law, which acts as a constitution, has no provision for calling early elections. Fatah officials say Abbas can do so by issuing a presidential decree. Hamas says that would be illegal. [/ QUOTE ] Who knows what will happen. But it seems likely that the U.S. and Israel would favor a broader interpretation that permits an early election. If you are the sort of person who thinks that Hamas is more distasteful than Fatah, is it worth possibly circumventing democracy and the rule of law in order to do so (which seems like a horrific precedent to set), especially considering that a Fatah win is not set in stone? [/ QUOTE ] I don;t see how it's "up in the air" unless someone can show that the President specifically has the right to use a decree to call for early legislative elections. Such pro-Hamas sources as The Economist suggest that he doesn't, calling his demand an "empty threat" . [/ QUOTE ] They have a parliamentary system of government. Early, unscheduled elections happen all the time in that system of government. See, for example, Israel, Great Britain, etc. etc. etc. It doesn't make that system any less democratic, if anything, it makes the system more democratic.
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#17
01-01-2007, 02:42 AM
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Re: Israel is arming the PA
New parliamentary elections happen because the government collapses, parties leave the government, the party in power wants to consolidate power etc.. It normally does not happen against the will of a continuing majority party. That would be a strange practice for a parliamentary democracy.
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It's up in the air. From this article: [ QUOTE ] The Palestinian basic law, which acts as a constitution, has no provision for calling early elections. Fatah officials say Abbas can do so by issuing a presidential decree. Hamas says that would be illegal. [/ QUOTE ] Who knows what will happen. But it seems likely that the U.S. and Israel would favor a broader interpretation that permits an early election. If you are the sort of person who thinks that Hamas is more distasteful than Fatah, is it worth possibly circumventing democracy and the rule of law in order to do so (which seems like a horrific precedent to set), especially considering that a Fatah win is not set in stone? [/ QUOTE ] I don;t see how it's "up in the air" unless someone can show that the President specifically has the right to use a decree to call for early legislative elections. Such pro-Hamas sources as The Economist suggest that he doesn't, calling his demand an "empty threat" . [/ QUOTE ] They have a parliamentary system of government. Early, unscheduled elections happen all the time in that system of government. See, for example, Israel, Great Britain, etc. etc. etc. It doesn't make that system any less democratic, if anything, it makes the system more democratic. [/ QUOTE ]
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