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Old 11-11-2007, 09:40 AM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: $114: 99 utg facing shove from 2p2er

i think it would be a mistake for anyone to get in the habit of pushing 13.4 bb's utg with AQ 88 99 TT type of hands and then standard raising AK/JJ. there are so many regulars that in about 2 weeks people will really know your range.
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: $114: 99 utg facing shove from 2p2er

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Yeah, in-game I thought at best (for me) your range was 88+, AK, AQs. So if it's TT+, AK is it still a call for me?

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if you can't answer that question for yourself, you shouldn't be playing 114s at all.
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: $114: 99 utg facing shove from 2p2er

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i think it would be a mistake for anyone to get in the habit of pushing 13.4 bb's utg with AQ 88 99 TT type of hands and then standard raising AK/JJ. there are so many regulars that in about 2 weeks people will really know your range.

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I think you way overestimate how often those spots come up, and how often anyone ever notices anything. Also you can mix in other hands every now and then.
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Old 11-11-2007, 03:08 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: $114: 99 utg facing shove from 2p2er

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Yeah, in-game I thought at best (for me) your range was 88+, AK, AQs. So if it's TT+, AK is it still a call for me?

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if you can't answer that question for yourself, you shouldn't be playing 114s at all.

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chip, if you do have to move down please go all the way to the 27's. thx.
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:11 PM
Chipchucker5 Chipchucker5 is offline
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Default Re: $114: 99 utg facing shove from 2p2er

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Yeah, in-game I thought at best (for me) your range was 88+, AK, AQs. So if it's TT+, AK is it still a call for me?

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if you can't answer that question for yourself, you shouldn't be playing 114s at all.

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chip, if you do have to move down please go all the way to the 27's. thx.

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Lol, will do John.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:54 AM
darinvg darinvg is offline
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Default Re: $114: 99 utg facing shove from 2p2er

In game I would call just because I felt pot stuck but since we know villain's range pretty well I guess folding is better. TT+ AK is all he should have.
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:02 AM
Luisgallo Luisgallo is offline
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Default Re: $114: 99 utg facing shove from 2p2er

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Shoving pre is unexploitable. I think it's better vs. calling stations with a hand like this.

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Why? You want calling stations peeling with stuff like 76s or even KQs.

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76s??
Come on Pudge, people aren't that bad at 114$...
I like a 375 raise and folding to DDBeast's push, vs unknown is instacall.
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