NL50: AA. Me gets suspicious...

AlexB182 · #1 11-17-2007, 06:27 AM

Villain is 31/17/2.2 over only 65 hands.
Question is, aren't we behind in these spots more often than we're ahead? Board is not overly drawy, only 76 for OESD might be possible but is villain calling with a SC PF here? Villain is rather aggressive, so KK-JJ would be reraised PF here. That leaves out only TT,99 which might only call here but not maybe not raise...Hate these spots and seriously thought about folding this on the turn.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($46.35)
BB ($52.90)
UTG ($55.65)
UTG+1 ($48.45)
Hero ($61)
MP2 ($46.20)
CO ($48.25)
Button ($14.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, MP2 calls $2, 4 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $3.5, MP2 calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $7, Hero calls $7.

River: ($25.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $20, Hero ?

AllTheCheese · #2 11-17-2007, 06:35 AM

I beat him into the pot on the river.

If the numbers 31/17/2.2/65 are at all representative, this guy is way LAG. He floats this flop with T high. There's pretty much a billion hands he can have on the river (including a pair of Kings). This is an insta-call.

ranka · #3 11-17-2007, 07:19 AM

Why did you checked the turn? I think turn check triggered the action - he may think his TT/99 are good. Also he playing sets same way and maybe he smelled weakness and decided to bluff. I would bet out this turn to figure out where we are.

As played, I would call the river. You may see TT, 99, JT diamonds, set here.

Das Budrick · #4 11-17-2007, 07:52 AM

villain's range is quite wide and you are ahead of a lot of it
value bet turn, value bet river

AlexB182 · #5 11-17-2007, 07:54 AM

Cause I'm either WA or WB so no need to bloat the pot here, especially OOP. Plus my feeling told me chances I am behind here are bigger than that I'm still ahead.

ranka · #6 11-17-2007, 07:58 AM

What is WA and WB

AlexB182 · #7 11-17-2007, 08:01 AM

Way ahead or way behind.

Specialwon · #8 11-17-2007, 09:51 AM

You obviously had some sort of read, so obv. go with that, But, I don't think the stats or the board support that read, they say you should value bet at least the first 2 streets. You look somewhat beat by the river but it's too late to fold when you are getting more than 2:1

I'm not sure about the river, I think I prefer b/f. His AF is not so high that you risk getting blown off the hand with worse. Big pairs will probably call a bet but check behind if allowed to. So, I bet for maybe 15 or so on the river, fold to a push.

Renton · #9 11-17-2007, 09:53 AM

pretty poorly played

just bet pot every street.

AlexB182 · #10 11-17-2007, 10:16 AM

So should we really go broke with Aces pretty much every time? Even in those spots where he have a pretty certain feeling that we're behind? This is of course only one example and I really ask myself if I'm losing value in spots where villain really turns up here with something like JJ...

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($46.35)
BB ($52.90)
UTG ($55.65)
UTG+1 ($48.45)
Hero ($61)
MP2 ($46.20)
CO ($48.25)
Button ($14.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to $2, MP2 calls $2, 4 folds.

Flop: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $3.5, MP2 calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $7, Hero calls $7.

River: ($25.75) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $20, Hero calls $20.

Damn converter: MP2 shows 88 (set) and wins the pot

Final Pot: $65.75