(NL50-100) Folding KK PF?

[dsw]

Hi,

just had a discussion with my brother and id like to hear some other opinions on that.

Hero and Villan are both TAG regulars. Youve never seen Villan 3bet PF with anything less then KK or getting out of line in general.
Both with a full stack.(NL50-100)

Villan raise to 4 BB. Hero raise to 12 BB. Villan raise to 36BB. Hero ?

I put him on AA,KK maybe 5-10% bluff.
Made that laydown 3-4 times now. Am I a nit?

[KJatl]

Yes.

[raistlinx]

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Hi,

just had a discussion with my brother and id like to hear some other opinions on that.

Hero and Villan are both TAG regulars. Youve never seen Villan 3bet PF with anything less then KK or getting out of line in general.
Both with a full stack.(NL50-100)

Villan raise to 4 BB. Hero raise to 12 BB. Villan raise to 36BB. Hero ?

I put him on AA,KK maybe 5-10% bluff.
Made that laydown 3-4 times now. Am I a nit?

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This would depend on how much history you have with Villian.

[King Spew]

NIT..... yes.

I could NEVER have that good a read. You must always put a bigger range out there IMHO.

Case in point and I can't remember the hand well at all, but I had button against a (11/3/1. 2000+ hands) that raised UTG, I repop and he mini pops back. I call. Well, we get to showdown and he shows 75s, or something like that.

KK is a playable hand..... except on FTP. There you WILL run into AA about 43.25874% of the time [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[raistlinx]

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NIT..... yes.

I could NEVER have that good a read. You must always put a bigger range out there IMHO.

Case in point and I can't remember the hand well at all, but I had button against a (11/3/1. 2000+ hands) that raised UTG, I repop and he mini pops back. I call. Well, we get to showdown and he shows 75s, or something like that.

KK is a playable hand..... except on FTP. There you WILL run into AA about 43.25874% of the time [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]This certainly seems to be the case, but really how often does anyone 4bet there with anything less?

[dsw]

i had notes on that 1 guy, 10/4/2 (over like 2k hands, i tend to watch regulars as much as possible):
no bluff yet
doesnt 3bet AKs/QQ OOP

figured i might as well fold and lose 12BB instead of my hole stack but from the replys so far i guess i should shove it anyways

[raistlinx]

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i had notes on that 1 guy, 10/4/2 (over like 2k hands, i tend to watch regulars as much as possible):
no bluff yet
doesnt 3bet AKs/QQ OOP

figured i might as well fold and lose 12BB instead of my hole stack but from the replys so far i guess i should shove it anyways

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Think about what you just said... you had a solid read over 2K hands but you must be wrong because someone else said so...

Don't let the pundits decide your policy.

[paulcouto]

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Am I a nit?

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no, no..........no, chuckle ....................no

well, at least yur making a mistake to the folding side.......in my opinion.

if yur gut is telling u something, then do it. maybe u have strong intuition. its a heck of a laydown sir.

[King Spew]

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Made that laydown 3-4 times now. Am I a nit?

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Uh, villain is good...... says Hero
Good villain will probe for weakness.
Good villain has found weakness.
Good Villain profits at Hero's expense.