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Old 06-04-2007, 12:52 PM
Tickner Tickner is offline
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Default Do I have the nuts, or is is possible he has me beat?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $296.42
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $204.70</font>
UTG: $410.10
MP: $176.00
CO: $199.00
BTN: $286.58

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, BTN calls $2.00, SB calls $1.00, Hero checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($6) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($6) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $6.00</font>, Hero calls $6.00, BTN calls $6.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($24) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $31.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $80.00</font>, SB folds

sucks that I am readless here, Ive been pretty nittish/aggro this session (prob like 50 hands with him), hes 22/8 PF though
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Do I have the nuts, or is is possible he has me beat?

Do you normally call a PSB here on the turn with a FD + GS + maybe an over?
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Do I have the nuts, or is is possible he has me beat?

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Do you normally call a PSB here on the turn with a FD + GS + maybe an over?

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meh, not usually, might be bad.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Do I have the nuts, or is is possible he has me beat?

I think he has to lead his 2 pair on a flop like that. If he turned a set of 7's well then gg/nh.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Do I have the nuts, or is is possible he has me beat?

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Do you normally call a PSB here on the turn with a FD + GS + maybe an over?

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You're not questioning the turn call? It's very standard imo...
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default Re: Do I have the nuts, or is is possible he has me beat?

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Do you normally call a PSB here on the turn with a FD + GS + maybe an over?

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no reason to push turn
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:59 PM
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I just don't like it because your implied odds are most likely not good if a J comes, or if an ace comes you don't know if he has like KJ. Also if a flush comes you maybe get him to call a river bet, but I usually fold here.

As played, river is standard.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:59 PM
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Do you normally call a PSB here on the turn with a FD + GS + maybe an over?

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meh, not usually, might be bad.

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You need to make $6 on the river on average to call this (I don't think the 3rd player will raise behind often). Villain might bet out with a worse turned fd in which case we have 7 stacking outs. We also might have a golden card in Jc. Besides, even a ragged club will probably win us more than $6 on average.
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Do I have the nuts, or is is possible he has me beat?

So does that mean we need to make $30 when we hit our flush on the river?
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Old 06-04-2007, 01:03 PM
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I just don't like it because your implied odds are most likely not good if a J comes, or if an ace comes you don't know if he has like KJ. Also if a flush comes you maybe get him to call a river bet, but I usually fold here.

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I fold/check the river if I hit an A, somtimes I will pick up the pot by hitting it though. I think we can count on having 12 outs on average so we need to make only $5 on the river on average for the call to be profitable (assuming we never get raised on the turn). If we get celled behind that's a bonus. Standard call.
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