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Old 10-07-2007, 01:44 AM
whyherro whyherro is offline
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lol this brings up so many bad memories of high school. i was in a typical situation and frequently had to schedule an extra hour after class with the teacher so that I could try and resurrect a notebook from crumpled papers in my bookbag to score just enough points to preserve my A for the quarter...
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:44 AM
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Do you think that that article represents something that cannot be fixed?

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It can be easily fixed. End the government school monopoly.

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Another AC rant in disguise. Fabulous. Do you care to address the substantive point made in this thread - namely, that the objective evidence does not support your assertion that the private system is markedly better.

This is like your NASA thread [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Troll elsewhere.

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Here it is again:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/19/op...mp;oref=slogin

This is a forum for evidence and rational discussion...not rants about the government.

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No, it's apparently a forum for unmodded trolling. There was no "rant about the government." Rduke asked a question, I answered it briefly because I knew Rduke wasn't actually interested in the answer, you trolled with impugnity. Again. Like virtually every other time you've ever responded to a post of mine.
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:48 AM
Borodog Borodog is offline
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It can be easily fixed. End the government school monopoly.

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I didn't know the government had a school monopoly.

what about private schools and home schooling and home schools?

that disproves monopoly right there.

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If you try to retain the money being sent to the public schools and instead tried to use it for private schools or homeschooling, what happens?

"Monopoly" doesn't necessarily mean only one provider. It means a grant of special privelege by government.
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:55 AM
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Have you read the sticky? I'm the one actually trying to have a discussion about the issue at hand, which is the state of public vs private education as relates to math and science.

I post an article which discusses and references the most authoritative studies done on the issue...you post an anecdote about a parent who didn't like their kid's grade, and got a strange answer...which you then generalize to how awful the government is and how you'll never let your kid near a public school.

Lay off the accusations of trolling. Your posts in this forum are constantly about AC or how hopelessly awful the government is. More than one person has called you on it. And RDuke didn't even bring the topic up. If you actually read his questions, you didn't really answer either of them.

So I invite you again to discuss the issue you brought up and continue to assert without evidence. The link is above. Until you do that, I see no reason to reply to you...you can have the last word. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-07-2007, 01:58 AM
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Do you think that that article represents something that cannot be fixed?

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It can be easily fixed. End the government school monopoly.

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Another AC rant in disguise. Fabulous. Do you care to address the substantive point made in this thread - namely, that the objective evidence does not support your assertion that the private system is markedly better.

This is like your NASA thread [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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Troll elsewhere.

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Here it is again:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/19/op...mp;oref=slogin

This is a forum for evidence and rational discussion...not rants about the government.

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No, it's apparently a forum for unmodded trolling. There was no "rant about the government." Rduke asked a question, I answered it briefly because I knew Rduke wasn't actually interested in the answer, you trolled with impugnity. Again. Like virtually every other time you've ever responded to a post of mine.

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I believe the picture you are looking for is this:

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Old 10-07-2007, 02:09 AM
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Okay Borodog, what's your hidden agenda this time?

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It can be easily fixed. End the government school monopoly.


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Oh, nevermind.

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Rduke55 asked the question. I answered it. I wish you morons would get a life and lay off the trolling.

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According to the new Webstorodog dictionary

trolling: v, (1) not completely agreeing with Borodog, (2) questioning whether Borodog really understands the concept of dimensional analysis.
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:15 AM
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It's unpossible to not pay for the state schools. That seems like a monopoly to me.

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you could live in a retirement community, property taxes don't go to schools. I guess state taxes still go to universities though.

but really that's a tax question, I mean there's so many ways the gov wastes your money I don't know why you single out schools.
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:17 AM
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All that's needed is a good independent examination system. Then all the dross about homeowrk, notepads, silly teachers etc is just good preperation for the bozzo's you'll meet at work.

True story this in a scientific research company: They needed a quality system to check the data produced was produced to the highest quality standards. So they chose this package and ran an extensive (at least a man year of work) quality audit to check the quality system was a quality product. Eventually they passed it, bought it, installed it, went live, it didn't work.

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Old 10-07-2007, 02:19 AM
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If you try to retain the money being sent to the public schools and instead tried to use it for private schools or homeschooling, what happens?

"Monopoly" doesn't necessarily mean only one provider. It means a grant of special privelege by government.

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retain the money? lol. you try to stop the gov from thefting you and you'll wind up dead, no matter what the reason you have for doing it.

but as far as education, it seems to me the best education model is the apprentice model. what I mean by that is that if you look at elite say nobel prize winners, a way lot of them had mentors they worked with who were themselves nobel prize winners. I think I read an article by a nobel prize winner who said somtheing like that.
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:19 AM
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It's unpossible to not pay for the state schools. That seems like a monopoly to me.

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you could live in a retirement community, property taxes don't go to schools. I guess state taxes still go to universities though.

but really that's a tax question, I mean there's so many ways the gov wastes your money I don't know why you single out schools.

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The question was: is it a monopoly, and the answer is yes. Do you acknowledge?


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I don't know why you single out schools

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What do you mean? We're anarchists. Are you?
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