NL CASH ever OK to call this?

[Kassu]

He makes a donk-bet on a weird board and I take it as weakness from a player like him. On the river I can't really see him having anything, but on the other hand I don't think he's that crazy of a player. Did he really hit his eights, sixes, 97 of diamonds or 54? Ever ok to call this? Or maybe I'm just too big of a calling station?

Reads: pretty straightforward tight player. He probably sees me as agressive but solid. I sure had been playing like on.

NL $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, October 16, 18:36:41 GMT 2007
Table Madrid 08 2-max (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of active players : 2
Seat 1: thanks4cash ( $226.60 )
Seat 2: AceDude ( $200.20 )
thanks4cash posts small blind [$1]
AceDude posts big blind [$2]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to thanks4cash [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
thanks4cash raises to [$6]
AceDude calls [$4]
** Dealing Flop ** [ T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
AceDude bets [$12]
thanks4cash raises to [$36]
AceDude calls [$24]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
AceDude checks
thanks4cash checks
** Dealing River ** [ 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
AceDude bets [$84]
thanks4cash WTF?

[vodoo]

uhm... wait a minute you really wanna call this?

[Kassu]

What do you think he has?

Oh well, yeh ... fold it is. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Kassu]

Do you fold a T here? What about weak 2 pair? If he isn't bluffing then the hands that he's valuebetting will most likely have you beat.

[BarryLyndon]

your RR on the flop is a little silly, he's calling a wide range including any T and diamond draw, all of which are ahead. If you are going to RR here and you get called, you need to follow up on the turn as a value bet or, perhaps, as a bluff against 88/77/99. You're 6 doesn't have as much showdown value as you think and you are going to be swimming in a mess on the river more times than not.

The river is meh - he could be doing this for value or a bluff. More hands here for value than a bluff (whiffed flushes), because A10/K10/Q10/set of 8s/made straight (54) all play this for value.

Also, you can factor out a whiffed flush less, as at least some whiffed flushes (QdJd, Adxd, Kdxd) will 4-bet here. I know I would if I had a read on you.

Barry

[Kassu]

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your RR on the flop is a little silly, he's calling a wide range including any T and diamond draw, all of which are ahead. If you are going to RR here and you get called, you need to follow up on the turn as a value bet or, perhaps, as a bluff against 88/77/99. You're 6 doesn't have as much showdown value as you think and you are going to be swimming in a mess on the river more times than not.

The river is meh - he could be doing this for value or a bluff. More hands here for value than a bluff (whiffed flushes), because A10/K10/Q10/set of 8s/made straight (54) all play this for value.

Also, you can factor out a whiffed flush less, as at least some whiffed flushes (QdJd, Adxd, Kdxd) will 4-bet here. I know I would if I had a read on you.

Barry

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Hmm, thanks, solid advice. Helps me a ton.

Would you take the initiative on flop with T here?