10/20 hu river facing 2x pot bet

[Nielsio]

All-in, it's only 900 more or so.

[FoxwoodsFiend]

krantz posted on my account so i posted on his. i honestly think you should shove, and your hand is not 99 here because it's absolutely possible he's going for value with worse (possibly even with as weak as AK) and once he does nobody ever folds in this spot even though they know they're cooked.

[Lefort]

Jesus... if I'm shoving the river here for 2xPOT with TPTK with no relevent metagame issues, I'm doing it as a bluff..

[Lefort]

Maybe I don't bluff rivers enough and my percieved ranges are too tight...

[Lefort]

I guess 87dd is pretty possible too.. hmm

[Ansky]

call clal call

(def do not shove)

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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call clal call

(def do not shove)

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if you're not shoving you should fold here because nobody ever folds in this spot

[whitelime]

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call clal call

(def do not shove)

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if you're not shoving you should fold here because nobody ever folds in this spot

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[Ansky]

What?

That makes no sense.

If you shove it is because you think we are >50% vs his valuebetting range (the range which he will call a shove w/). I think we are pretty close to 50%, but combined w/ the overlay from the pot, and the chance he is bluffing, means it's a call.

[mastr]

yeah i'm with ansky.. no reason for us to not think we're 40 % likely to win, thus calling the bet but not wanting to shove.