WCOOP ME - flop,turn,river decision

[NYWalker]

WCOOP ME.
Villain moved to table a few hands ago. No read.

Blinds 400/800.
Villain(41K) limps MP. SB completes. Hero (28K) is BB checks with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

3 players 2400 Pot.

Flop 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB checks, Hero bet 1200 (like the bet?), Villain raises to 3200.

Hero? (your line)
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As played, SB folds, hero call.
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2 players, Pot 8800.

Turn Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bet 2400, villain raises to 8800.

Hero?
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As played, hero call.
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2 players, pot 26400.

River K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero checks (comment???)

Villain bet 19200 (we have 16114)

Hero???

Please give me your flop, turn, river decision with reasons.

[registrar]

Check-something turn. What worse is calling bets here after you've bet called that flop from BB?

I bet more on the flop but that's just because I do.

[Crash0veride]

Check/Call flop. If we check flop villain will fire at most flops with his whole range.

Check/raise turn for value and to set up a river shove on any non heart.

Check/call river....hero never shove a flush here.

as played I four bet shove the turn, but I clearly suck

[NYWalker]

When I played this hand, I considered gobbo's comment on one of my previous hands in the $1K event. I combined gobbo's aggo style with mine when playing the hand. (not sure if gobbo can recall)

[NYWalker]

This is the early hand vs same villain in "Boat's sailing on a flush river."

[WarDekar]

I've been taking way more passive lines here lately, check/calling flop, evaluating turn here I would likely check/raise and then evaluate river.

As played, I have no idea...

[d2themfi]

Def fold to the turn raise, its doubtful he is going to raise us twice without a better queen or a set on the flop. River is a super easy fold, you beat absolutely nothing

[NYWalker]

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Def fold to the turn raise, its doubtful he is going to raise us twice without a better queen or a set on the flop. River is a super easy fold, you beat absolutely nothing

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What he has to have in order to raise us on the flop and on the turn. Why not put us all-in on the turn? (given our stacksize vs pot)

Why we bet the flop, the turn?

[NYWalker]

Since there aren't many responses in this hand, I guess everyone thinks it is so obvious villain has a set/bigger Queen or made flush,etc...

Anyway, I'm not going to discuss how did I play this hand.

Because this hand actually affects the decision when playing the Ac8c boat hand against the same villain. I'm posting how the hand was played. If you still want to figure out river decision, you can ignore the result and continue discuss.

http://www.pokerxfactor.com/servlet/...p;handid=87910

Originally, I wanted to post these two hands in one post, but people can see this hand's result from second hand's stack, that's why I put them in two posts.

[Pudge714]

Wow I guess fold river.
I have no idea though since I would never ever ever ever get to the river like this.