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#11
08-26-2007, 02:27 PM
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Re: 25/50 I have a set, river 4 flushes and I call?
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when you say he will check back with moderate showdown value, do you consider A7 no spade a hand with showdown value? [/ QUOTE ]of course 
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#12
08-26-2007, 02:40 PM
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Re: 25/50 I have a set, river 4 flushes and I call?
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[ QUOTE ] when you say he will check back with moderate showdown value, do you consider A7 no spade a hand with showdown value? [/ QUOTE ]of course [/ QUOTE ] Why wouldn't it?
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#13
08-26-2007, 02:50 PM
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Re: 25/50 I have a set, river 4 flushes and I call?
i dont know the dynamic of the game, but i doubt he ever has A7o here. likely made hands for him, are big Kx suited, KKs, QQs, and maybe JJs. If he has a bluff its going to be a suited ace, or maybe two kings or two queens with no spades, that he decided wasn't going to be good enough of the time to show it down. i wouldn't pay it off unless there was some history, in spots where they can't have "air" -- they have to have a hand with some showdown value minimum, i just don't give them credit for turning it into a bluff unless i see how they play first.
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#14
08-26-2007, 03:03 PM
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Re: 25/50 I have a set, river 4 flushes and I call?
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So you think he should never been bluffing here? Becuase he never ever ever has a hand without showdown value. Don't you think that might be a recipe for suicide v. Stinger? [/ QUOTE ] I think it's a bad idea to turn a made hand into a bluff when you still have a good amount of showdown value (which I think A7dd does).
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#15
08-26-2007, 03:06 PM
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Re: 25/50 I have a set, river 4 flushes and I call?
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[ QUOTE ] So you think he should never been bluffing here? Becuase he never ever ever has a hand without showdown value. Don't you think that might be a recipe for suicide v. Stinger? [/ QUOTE ] I think it's a bad idea to turn a made hand into a bluff when you still have a good amount of showdown value (which I think A7dd does). [/ QUOTE ]Obv. sometimes it's more +ev to bluff than to just check down w/ showdown value.
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#16
08-26-2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: 25/50 I have a set, river 4 flushes and I call?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So you think he should never been bluffing here? Becuase he never ever ever has a hand without showdown value. Don't you think that might be a recipe for suicide v. Stinger? [/ QUOTE ] I think it's a bad idea to turn a made hand into a bluff when you still have a good amount of showdown value (which I think A7dd does). [/ QUOTE ]Obv. sometimes it's more +ev to bluff than to just check down w/ showdown value. [/ QUOTE ] i dont think this concept is unfamiliar to kod
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#19
08-26-2007, 06:48 PM
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Re: 25/50 I have a set, river 4 flushes and I call?
since he probably bets almost every hand that beats you (esp with only 1 psb left), this call seems like an unfavorable parlay to me, even if he is "capable" of turning a hand with showdown value into a bluff.
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#20
08-26-2007, 08:19 PM
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Re: 25/50 I have a set, river 4 flushes and I call?
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since he probably bets almost every hand that beats you (esp with only 1 psb left), this call seems like an unfavorable parlay to me, even if he is "capable" of turning a hand with showdown value into a bluff. [/ QUOTE ] Do you think he shoves with Ax7s?
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